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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi folks!

If it isn't too much of an imposition, can we move this discussion
about footprint and symbol philosophy that we seem to constantly have
going into its own thread, or maybe even off-list?

Thanks!

Adam Wolf

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Justin Partain
<justinwpartain1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> At my workplace, we use this workflow as well.  Each real "part" is a symbol
> as its base, with BOM info in the symbol properties, with a specific
> footprint for each part. Out of the four EE's doing schematic/layout here,
> we never open  CvPCB.
>
> --
>
> Justin Partain
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Clemens Koller <cko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello, Chris!
>>
>> Eeschema    -> Schematic editor
>>
>> Pcbnew      -> Layout editor
>>
>> Cvpcb       -> move it to Library editor or manager
>>
>> BTW: Assignment of a footprints seems to me completely odd at this level.
>>
>> When I create a part it consist of a partname, schematic symbol, an
>> assigned footprint, a 3d-model, and some attributes all in
>> one place. Then I grab that part by its partname (like the handle of a
>> suitcase) and use it in the schematics. From there it gets
>> forwarded to the layout, bill-of-materials and assembly data and
>> optionally to an 3d-renderer without any additional tweaking.
>>
>> A part to buy, i.e. named "LTC6362CMS8" comes already with all the
>> information to be placed in the suitcase - it has exactly one type of
>> footprint (here MSOP-8, JEDEC MO-187-AA). I don't see any reason to assign
>> different footprints to parts, because they usually have only one.
>>
>> It's a different story if there will be some solder yield tweaking to
>> automagically replace/update *all* footprints of a design by using a
>> different process library. (i.e. use RoundRect shapes vs. Rectangular shapes
>> to improve tombstoning or solderpaste release.)
>> Here, we are thinking to generate footprints dynamically depending on
>> soldering process parameters - but an MSOP-8 will still be an MSOP-8.
>>
>> Pl Editor   -> Template editor (we might want to edit other stuff as well
>> such as board outlines for PCIe and similar things)
>>
>> Bitmap2Component -> Remove as independent app, make "Import image" in
>> libedit and modedit (dito.)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Clemens
>>
>>
>> On 2017-02-02 14:56, Chris Pavlina wrote:
>> > I admit I'm getting self-indulgent here, this request is definitely a
>> > bit "what Chris would do if made Dictator of KiCad", but... just testing
>> > the waters here:
>> >
>> > What do people think about, for either the 5.0 or 6.0 release, ditching
>> > the old application names, in favor of everything being one tool under
>> > the "KiCad" roof:
>> >
>> > Eeschema    -> Schematic editor
>> > Pcbnew      -> PCB editor, or Layout editor, or Board editor
>> > Cvpcb       -> "Assign Footprints"
>> > Pl Editor   -> Title block editor
>> > Bitmap2Component    -> Remove as independent app, make "Import image" in
>> >                        libedit and modedit
>> >
>> > I know this one is going to be controversial, but I don't really see the
>> > point of these old names. They're... weird. Cvpcb - what does that even
>> > mean? :P
>> >
>>
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