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[Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx>]

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 10:09 AM, José Ignacio <jose.cyborg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I do like KiCad's behavior quite a bit, though maybe there could be a better way to signal users about it. In any case it is much better than E**le's tendency to fill zones even though things are disconnected. I have a box with 100 fully assembled coasters from a previous designer that used a ground plane in E**le and did not see first go that all the grounds were disconnected, going to isolated pours.

For what it’s worth, I agree with the need for better user feedback. There is a question about this on forum.kicad.info today (https://forum.kicad.info/t/zone-filling-confusion/5245). Kicad’s behavior is correct (IMHO).

I will check the pcbnew documentation and see if there is anything about this behavior, and maybe add something if necessary.

-a


> 
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Feb 9, 2017, at 12:18 AM, Maciej Suminski <maciej.suminski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > I have just checked, and apparently it is not a GAL issue. To have a
> > zone filled, one needs a pad or via placed in the zone area. The
> > intention is to avoid creating unconnected islands of copper.
> 
> I see. I just did a test. Because the zone an inner layer on a board with all SMT devices, there are no pads connected to it. And I hadn’t dropped any vias from the parts on the top and bottom layer to the pour. Once I did that, the zone filled. That makes sense once the reasoning is known.
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> 
> -a
> 
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Orson
> >
> > On 02/03/2017 12:22 AM, Andy Peters wrote:
> >> This is odd. I’m doing a four-layer board, with the usual two inner layers for power (In1.Cu) and ground (In2.Cu) planes. I’m using the OpenGL canvas.
> >>
> >> I added a pour that covered the entire In2.Cu layer, attached it to the GND net, and the pour shows as solid fills. I put a couple of small pours on F.Cu and B.Cu and those pours show as solid fills, too.
> >>
> >> I added a couple of non-overlapping pours on In1.Cu, with nets attached, and only the outline of the pour is displayed. In Legacy canvas, the pours on this layer show as whatever is specified by the Outline Style (Line, Hatched, Fully Hatched) but it is not showing a solid fill. The three Zone Fill buttons on the left-hand toolbar do nothing on this layer, too.
> >>
> >> I tried the same design on a Mac running 10.12.3 (Kicad details below) as well as a Win7-64 machine using last night’s nightly build, and both have the exact same issue.
> >>
> >>
> >> Application: kicad
> >> Version: (2017-01-31 revision e03fef3)-master, release build
> >> Libraries: wxWidgets 3.0.2
> >>           libcurl/7.51.0 SecureTransport zlib/1.2.8
> >> Platform: Mac OS X (Darwin 16.4.0 x86_64), 64 bit, Little endian, wxMac
> >> - Build Info -
> >> wxWidgets: 3.0.2 (UTF-8,STL containers,compatible with 2.8)
> >> Boost: 1.61.0
> >> Curl: 7.43.0
> >> KiCad - Compiler: Clang 7.3.0 with C++ ABI 1002
> >>        Settings: USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=ON
> >>                  USE_WX_OVERLAY=ON
> >>                  KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
> >>                  KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
> >>                  KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
> >>                  KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU=OFF
> >>                  BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON
> >>                  KICAD_USE_SCH_IO_MANAGER=OFF
> >>                  KICAD_USE_OCE=ON
> >>
> >>
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