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Re: UI improvements
Symbol has been used as long as I can remember.
The proper names should probably be defined to avoid confusion.
In my book:
A "symbol" is a generic repesentation for drawing a schematic,
and that is whats used in eeschema right now.
A "footprint" is the pads and silkscreen ++ used in pcbnew.
A "housing" is the physical package i.e. the 3D model.
The current way of doing things is a bit confusing and causes
many "symbols" to be reused in the library.
This is not effective when someting is to be changed.
It could be a good idea to introduce a "part" that stores all the needed
information like symbol, footprint, pin connections between symbol and
footprint,
3D modell, documentation.
This might be more intuitive for new user who I see repeatedly trying to
match a symbol
with pins "G-S-D" to a footprint with pins "1-2-3".
Just my 2 cent....
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Pavlina
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:30 AM
To: Simon Wells
Cc: KiCad Developers
Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] UI improvements
Are we calling them "symbols" now? Internally they are called with
"components" or "parts" depending on whether they are on a schematic...
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 03:25:03PM +1300, Simon Wells wrote:
just a slight segue.... is it not better to refer to symbols rather
than components? as with the footprints being seperated from the
symbols i don't see the justification for calling it a component (will
also require renaming other stuff)
On 23 March 2017 at 12:12, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:53:40PM +0100, Clemens Koller wrote:
>> Hello, Fabrizio!
>>
>> The horizontal + vertical justify radio buttons could possibly be
>> improved by showing the alignment visually as it's done in [1] by using
>> a 3 x 3 radio button matrix. It can also reduce the number of clicks to
>> 1 to adjust hor + vert simultaneously.
>>
>> The timestamp is not human readable. It seems strange to me to dump it
>> as hex-number on the UI. (WTF!?)
>
> I'm struggling to think of a use for this. Maybe for power users, to
> jump quickly to the component in the raw sch file by searching for it -
> but why not just search for the reference?
>
> I wonder how many people would complain if I took that out.
>
>>
>> The Component/Chip Name thingy seems to be lost a bit on the lower
>> left. Maybe some sorting of the elements based on the usage/setup
>> procedure as well as logic dependency could do some good.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Clemens
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:WG9-9.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-03-22 10:32, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>> > hi guys,
>> > I am looking at some new icons that were introduced in kicad by the
>> > people who made the related functionalities and at the user
>> > experience in general. If any of you guys has any feedback about
>> > possible (aesthetic) UI improvements I would love to know.
>> >
>> > Specifically I am looking at this menu.
>> >
>> > Inline image 1
>> >
>> > the section "Chip Name" is a part that I use a lot and I find a
>> > little "mysterious". Before going further with a possible patch to
>> > improve a little the usability of it I would like to know if there is
>> > any of you interesting in giving an opinion. I would love to know
>> > from the person who made it what exactly is the Chip Name section
>> > for. I feel it is not so evident to the user.
>> >
>> > cheers
>> > Fabrizio
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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