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[Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>]

>
> And it just so happens that in this schematic NO components have been
> edited to include these default fields/values, so, they don't show up in
> the component table.


I have a patch to fix this now - if a field is empty and a template value
exists, that is placed there instead.


> Also, editing Multipart components is a little quirky, If you change a
> field for a multi-part component, all "parts" update to that value, but if
> any parts have different values, only one is shown in the table and its not
> clear that the underlying multipart field is inconsistent.


This is a hard one as really, multi-part components should *not* have
different values in various fields! I had thought about adding another
level (with an arrow as you suggest) but I think it becomes too
complicated.

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Strontium <strntydog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Oliver,
>
> This is one of my components:
> http://i.imgur.com/QXyCXXt.png
>
> This is the component table:
> http://i.imgur.com/F2WTRC2.png
>
> The MFG, MPN or EQUIVOK fields in the component aren't shown in the table!
>
> And in doing that I worked out my problem :)
>
> I have MFG/MPN/EQUIVOK defined as "Default Fields" with default values.
> And because the component hasn't been edited, I can edit it and SEE the
> default fields and default values BUT unless I change something they are
> not saved with the component.  And it just so happens that in this
> schematic NO components have been edited to include these default
> fields/values, so, they don't show up in the component table.
>
> It would be nice if the "Default Fields" and their default values show in
> the table if they weren't defined for the component, maybe highlighted in
> some way (Italic, light grey, or something) to indicate they are defaulted
> and not actually set. But now I know why I couldn't see them its not a big
> deal so consider this an Enhancement request.
>
> Also, editing Multipart components is a little quirky, If you change a
> field for a multi-part component, all "parts" update to that value, but if
> any parts have different values, only one is shown in the table and its not
> clear that the underlying multipart field is inconsistent.  Again its not a
> big deal, I just noticed it.  Maybe multipart components should work like
> grouped components, i.e. you can click an arrow and see all the parts and
> edit them individually, or edit the top level component and set them all to
> the same value?  I'm not really sure if this is a good idea or not.
>
> I'm working on an external BOM management tool. It reads a schematic live
> while you edit it in Kicad, and costs it from octopart and/or a database of
> locally defined components, updating in real time.  This tool you have made
> is going to save me an enormous amount of time editing schematics and
> getting all the field metadata consistent.  Thank you.
>
> Two more enhancement ideas:
> 1. A way to update the schematic from edits without closing the table view.
> 2. A way to revert the last edit (undo)
>
> Steven
>
>
> On 05/05/17 20:56, Oliver Walters wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> Unless you mean something different to what I think "custom fields" means,
> then this is already the case - any extra fields (beyond REFERENCE /
> FOOTPRINT / DATSHEET / VALUE) are preesnt to be edited in the table...
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Strontium <strntydog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Oliver,
>>
>> Just had a chance to check out your component table viewer, its nice.
>> Great work.
>>
>> Is it on your roadmap to be able to view/edit a components custom fields?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven
>>
>> On 03/05/17 05:35, Oliver Walters wrote:
>>
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> Thanks for merging!
>>>
>>> I will address those points at some stage - there are other ideas I have
>>> too but I thought it was better to get the first iteration done and make
>>> incremental improvements.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>
>>
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