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[Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo.bernardo@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 5/23/2017 4:17 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>> cheers Oliver,
>> I do not know what a .dcm file is.
>>
>> I am not sure it is a good idea to have a in-built field called
>> Description in the table viewer. But I can easily see how that is
>> useful. I guess you would like to use this table to add info. This makes
>> it non a table viewer. The current icon label says "Component table
>> view" which I find ambiguous. Maybe Wayne can jump in with a proper name
>> for it.
>
> The component information strings are not fields.  They are part of the
> component definition and are not user definable.  There are four
> component information definitions: name, description, key words (tags),
> and documentation file name.  You could create fields with the same
> names so I can understand how this could be confusing.
>
> Toolbar button tooltips should be a verb followed by a short
> description.  In this case "Edit component properties" would work.
>

Perhaps the software should (re)assign the names of the first 4 fields and
use a 2-part name to distinguish them from anything else? Maybe a special
character at the front of the name would be enough - let's say '@'.  That
shouldn't look too ugly and it's unlikely someone would begin a field name
with '@' (or some other suitable character). At any rate, if the user can
give an arbitrary field > 4 a name which happens to match a name of one
of the first 4 fields, we need some scheme so that users (and machines!)
can distinguish the special fields.

- Cirilo

>>
>> I am having the feeling the development of this table did not come from
>> a clean plan of having an XYZ tool. Or maybe is just me. Please dont get
>> me wrong, I love this table (and the soon to come new icon) but it might
>> be a good idea to drop the word viewer for it if we want the (great)
>> ability to edit stuff.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Fabrizio
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>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Oliver Walters
>> <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Fabrizio,
>>
>>     1. You have added a custom field called "Description".
>>     2. The table viewer has an "inbuild" field called "Description". It
>>     populates this field with the component description which is found
>>     in the .dcm files
>>
>>     Here's what I see.
>>
>>     Inline image 1
>>
>>     Here I have added the custom "description" field with dummy data to
>>     only one component.
>>
>>     The first "Description" column is filled with the symbol
>>     descriptions from the .dcm files in the library.
>>
>>     If you are missing the .dcm files then your first column will be empty.
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Fabrizio Tappero
>>     <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Oliver,
>>         not sure I understand the question. This is what my schematic
>>         components fields look like:
>>
>>         Inline image 1
>>
>>
>>         cheers
>>         Fabrizio
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov
>>         <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>             Previous bug even works without modifying a field, all I
>>             have to do is enter a field edit mode and click somewhere
>>             else, and that field's value will be copied to where ever I
>>             clicked, this will cause a lot of grief when users decide to
>>             cancel editing and click elsewhere to discard changes, or so
>>             they think that's what should have happened.
>>
>>
>>             A few more things:
>>             1. When I click Apply changes, the RED markings/modified
>>             fields should disappear when the changes have been
>>             successfully applied
>>             2. Undo/Redo should work inside Component Table to undo each
>>             user action, instead of having the user to discard all
>>             changes and start over
>>             3. There's something weird going on when you try to edit a
>>             field, it seems that have to click 4 times to enter edit
>>             mode, 2 times is what I expect. Also perhaps some weird
>>             delay that prevents me from entering edit mode.
>>
>>             On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov
>>             <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Oliver, found another unexpected behaviour.
>>                 When I select a field to edit, for example to replace a
>>                 "Part Number" field from AAA to BBB, when I type in BBB
>>                 but instead of hitting enter, I click on the next field
>>                 below it which belongs to another part, then BBB
>>                 modifies that part's field instead of where the editing
>>                 took place.
>>
>>                 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Oliver Walters
>>                 <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
>>                 <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>                     The "Description" field should be showing the
>>                     description of each symbol as it appears in the .dcm
>>                     file. It was working for me - do your symbols not
>>                     have those descriptions?
>>
>>                     On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Fabrizio Tappero
>>                     <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx
>>                     <mailto:fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Hi Guys,
>>                         great ! you guys almost fixed it. It looks like
>>                         the column "Description" appears twice and one
>>                         of the two is completely empty.
>>
>>                         cheers
>>                         Fabrizio
>>
>>
>>
>>                         Inline image 1
>>
>>                         On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Wayne
>>                         Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>                         <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>                             Oliver,
>>
>>                             I committed your patch.  Thank you.
>>
>>                             Wayne
>>
>>                             On 5/22/2017 10:08 AM, Oliver Walters wrote:
>>                             > Bug noted here -
>>                             https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg29485.html
>>                             <https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg29485.html>
>>                             >
>>                             > Patch attached to this email fixes glitch
>>                             when user adds custom field
>>                             > with same name as a default field.
>>                             >
>>                             > Users can now do this to their heart's
>>                             content.
>>                             >
>>                             >
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