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[Diego Herranz <diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Oliver and Wayne, for the replies.
Keep us posted with all progress related to this.

Thanks,
Diego

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> On 7/14/2017 9:31 AM, Oliver Walters wrote:
> > Hi Diego,
> >
> >
> >
> >     Thinking of naming, should we use "kicad-packages3d" to keep the
> >     same format (kicad-symbols)?
> >
> >
> > That's not a bad idea, I was considering this myself. It would make
> > sense to rename this before a v5 release
> >
> >      On a separate note, how does this work with the future symbols
> >     (.sweet)? Would that happen on v5 as well? Would that be a different
> >     repo?
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure on the plan for .sweet in v5, I thought it was just the
> > symbol-table and .sweet was v6, which means that the reorganization will
> > be separate from the transfer to using .sweet libraries. I imagine there
> > will need to be some scripts written to convert all the symbols.
>
> Sweet will not be completed for v5.  Only the symbol library table will
> be implemented.  The new symbol library file (sweet) and schematic file
> formats are expected to be part of the v6 release.
>
> >
> >          You say footprint libraries will remain as they are. Does that
> >         mean no unified repo?
> >
> >
> > For now, at least. I want to merge them into a single kicad-footprints
> > repo but this will require a lot of work because we have to maintain
> > support for users who use the GitHub plugin to access repositories
> > individually. I have yet to develop a clear plan to address this. One
> > thing at a time :)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Diego Herranz
> > <diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     Hi, Oliver.
> >
> >     When I started using KiCad I got confused with the repos for
> >     symbols, footprints and 3D models. I think it's getting better and
> >     this will make it easier.
> >
> >     Thinking of naming, should we use "kicad-packages3d" to keep the
> >     same format (kicad-symbols)?
> >
> >     On a separate note, how does this work with the future symbols
> >     (.sweet)? Would that happen on v5 as well? Would that be a different
> >     repo? Or kicad-symbols would get updated to hold .sweet files
> instead?
> >     You say footprint libraries will remain as they are. Does that mean
> >     no unified repo?
> >
> >     Thanks!
> >
> >     On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Oliver Walters
> >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >         To the package maintainers:
> >
> >         There has been a lot of movement of late by the library team,
> >         with a view to improve (vastly) the quality of the symbol
> libraries.
> >
> >         The major change is our plan to reorganize the symbol libraries
> >         to bring some consistency - currently they are scattered and
> >         there is no real rhyme or reason to library convention.
> >
> >         Reference - https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1402
> >         <https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1402>
> >
> >         This is a big change - so much so that I would like to retain a
> >         separation between the current symbol libraries (for legacy
> >         compatibility). My suggestion is to enact the new symbols in a
> >         new repository:
> >
> >         <http://goog_1316844941>
> >         https://github.com/kicad/kicad-symbols
> >         <https://github.com/kicad/kicad-symbols>
> >
> >         We currently have a separate discussion underway as to how we
> >         manage migration to the new repository (or whether we simply
> >         make a block change to the current one)
> >         - https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1415
> >         <https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1415>
> >
> >         A further very important note is that there is a new repository
> >         for 3d models, which is of far higher quality
> >         - https://github.com/kicad/packages3d
> >         <https://github.com/kicad/packages3d>
> >
> >         This repository should supersede the 3d models currently located
> >         in the kicad-library repository. This also brings a functional
> >         separation between the symbol libraries and the 3d library,
> >         which is fantastic.
> >
> >
> >         My goal for release concurrent with KiCad v5 is thus:
> >
> >         a) Mark kicad-library as legacy and don't package with v5
> >         b) Package kicad-symbols as the symbol libraries
> >         c) Package packages3d as the 3D model libraries
> >
> >         I'm not 100% on top of how the packaging takes place so if there
> >         are any good reasons that this should not take place as I have
> >         laid out above, please let me know now.
> >
> >         The footprint libraries will remain as they are for v5. I have
> >         some ideas there but they require a lot more work - this is the
> >         first step towards the KiCad Library Management Manifesto (evil
> >         laugh).
> >
> >         Regards,
> >         Oliver
> >
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