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On 08/07/2017 05:19 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> I added a logo for the context menu. This context menu also has the 
> added benefit of making the "select on same sheet" feature more visible 
> to a user, also it doesnt freeze kicad when you happen to click on a 
> sub-schematic
>
> I attach both patches in this mail.
>
> - Kristoffer
>
> On 07/24/2017 10:03 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > After suggestions from chris, I deactivated the "select all items on 
> > sheet" on left-click inside eeschema, and instead added a context menu 
> > for it when rightclicking on a sheet in eeschema.
> >
> > This is a separate patch to the sheet-selection improvement. I do not 
> > know how to generate a icon for this menu entry, so right now I am 
> > reusing an already existing one.
> >
> > - Kristoffer
> >
> > On 07/24/2017 10:19 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > Hmm, I was planning to send that mail to the ML. will resend it there.
> > >
> > > I am unsure about the separate tool. Most circuits I am using this on 
> > > is instant, but I guess that doing both could be a viable option. The 
> > > tool is available as a separate tool from pcbnew.
> > >
> > > On 07/24/2017 04:50 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > > > What about a slightly different approach? Don't do this on a
> > > > single-click on sheet, make it a separate tool. That way it just 
> > > > doesn't
> > > > happen accidentally. And give some feedback when it does run by
> > > > displaying a progress dialog.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:53:43AM +0200, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > Thank you for testing this!
> > > > >
> > > > > I was not aware of the large pcb problem, and this actually raises a
> > > > > question of having a large "demo" project to test stuff on. Since I 
> > > > > guess
> > > > > many do like me and actually do many of the tests on the demo 
> > > > > projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I am thinking of adding a setting to be able to disable the 
> > > > > automatic
> > > > > cross-probing for this since I think that getting the speed up will 
> > > > > not
> > > > > really be easy without some major refactor. Any tips and thoughts 
> > > > > for that?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Kristoffer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 07/24/2017 12:19 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > > > > > I like this change, and I was about to push it and suggest we can add
> > > > > > any suggested changes others have later, when I decided to test it 
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > large project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's REALLY slow now. If I click on a sheet, KiCad freezes for a 
> > > > > > solid
> > > > > > ten seconds in my larger test project. IMO that isn't acceptable, 
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > too easy to do accidentally and way too annoying when it happens.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 03:00:58PM +0200, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > I fixed up some of the code violations I could see, and applied 
> > > > > > > the patch to
> > > > > > > current master, where the sheet selection is working once again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Kristoffer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 07/12/2017 10:01 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > > The last working revision I copuld test was:
> > > > > > > > 2c21c70f46dd3ef444ac4a909434697cce972f4a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Right before the new connectivty algorithm.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After that the sheet-selection is not working anymore. So It 
> > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > nice if you could file a bug report on it :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     - Kristoffer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2017-07-12 13:33, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > No worries!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As an example, If i layout a group of components, all which 
> > > > > > > > > require
> > > > > > > > > the powerpaths as in they need acess to 3v3 lines that are used in
> > > > > > > > > other areas of the board as well. These 3v3 lines might be a bit
> > > > > > > > > annoying to route for certain cases.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As the code is now, since these 3v3 lines are used as an outside
> > > > > > > > > connection of the sheet, they will be ignored, even if they only
> > > > > > > > > connect
> > > > > > > > > between pads on the same subschematic. Say that the connection to
> > > > > > > > > the global 3v3 net is handled later with a via or something like
> > > > > > > > > that.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The same logic applies to all pins that connect outside the block,
> > > > > > > > > and in some cases the layout of the blocks have a non-trivial
> > > > > > > > > routing to get the signal out of the block "area", which is what i
> > > > > > > > > noticed when using these. Hope this explanation made it more clear
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > With this more aggressive change. It is also more visible from the
> > > > > > > > > pcb side to where this "block" has dependencies, I also find it
> > > > > > > > > easier to deselect segments manually, than to select them if the
> > > > > > > > > block is not very trivial.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regarding the code violations, I will have a look later when I get
> > > > > > > > > the time as well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the GND thing must indeed be a bug, which I will look into as 
> > > > > > > > > well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 07/12/2017 10:30 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Kristoffer,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I apologize for such a long delay. Finally I had to time to 
> > > > > > > > > > look at the
> > > > > > > > > > patch. I tried it out with a few boards, but I could not 
> > > > > > > > > > really notice a
> > > > > > > > > > difference. I read the code and I think I understand what are 
> > > > > > > > > > you trying
> > > > > > > > > > to do, but are you sure it is the right way to go? 
> > > > > > > > > > Hierarchical sheets
> > > > > > > > > > are frequently used as rooms/channels/duplicated blocks and in my
> > > > > > > > > > opinion selecting items belonging to a sheet should be 
> > > > > > > > > > restricted to
> > > > > > > > > > items unique to the sheet. Would you give a use case where the 
> > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > behavior gives benefits?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please pay attention to the code formatting, I see a number of
> > > > > > > > > > violations there.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, I observed a bug when selecting items belonging to the 
> > > > > > > > > > same sheet.
> > > > > > > > > > If you open complex_hierarchy demo and use the select action 
> > > > > > > > > > on P3 or
> > > > > > > > > > P5, you will notice that all components with a pad connected 
> > > > > > > > > > to GND are
> > > > > > > > > > also selected. I can create a bug report if necessary.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > Orson
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 07/11/2017 05:36 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, the sheet-selection code was all submitted by me in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > place, It doesnt exist in legacy, so this change to how it 
> > > > > > > > > > > works is
> > > > > > > > > > > according to me more inline with what I wanted in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > beginning :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > - Kristoffer
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2017-07-10 21:06, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kristoffer,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > This appears to only effect the GAL canvases.  Would one
> > > > > > > > > > > > of our resident
> > > > > > > > > > > > tool framework experts please take a look at this an see if 
> > > > > > > > > > > > it makes
> > > > > > > > > > > > sense?  If no one has time, I will try to get to it by
> > > > > > > > > > > > this weekend.  It
> > > > > > > > > > > > will take most of the week for me to recover from
> > > > > > > > > > > > vacation before I can
> > > > > > > > > > > > take a look at it.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/10/2017 11:21 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Second bump, I guess I might be the only one who uses the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sheet-selection then :) My suggestion is to merge this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > patch in, It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > makes the selection more much more useful!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kristoffer
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2017-06-06 13:44, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that everyone is pretty busy, but I would 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > appreciate if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone took a quick glance at this and said what they think.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kristoffer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2017-05-03 15:51, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a small change to the "select
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hierarchical sheet" function. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would love if someone tried this and gave some feedback.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before the function only selected segments belonging to a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > netlist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unique to that hierarchical sheet. Now it will use the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "select
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > logical connection" to every segment connected to module 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subsheet as well. presonally I think it is more useful 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want confirmation if possible :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kristoffer
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >    -Kristoffer