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Re: KiCAD with MacOS Barely Usable

 

Yes, I did.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:11 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Did you try the tip mentioned on the webpage?
>
> http://kicad-pcb.org/help/known-system-related-issues/#_osx
>
> 2017-09-05 16:32 GMT+02:00 Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> Hi Andrey,
>>
>> I tried to reproduce this and couldn't.  I'm on 10.12.6, on a 2017 rMBP
>> with internal display and 2K external display (don't have a 5K, but can't
>> see how that would matter).  I also tried with an external mouse and didn't
>> see any issue with the scroll wheel.
>>
>> Any other Mac developers have any ideas to help diagnose this?
>> Andrey, it would probably be good to open a bug report so that this
>> doesn't get lost in email.
>>
>> -Jon
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's an example video.
>>> I move the scroll wheel one at a time at first, and it zooms very slow,
>>> notice it jumps from like 7x to 22x in a single scroll.
>>> I tried PCBnew with OpenGL and it has additional problems, it zooms
>>> pretty fast compared to Eeschema but when it stops, there's 50:50 chance it
>>> will jump 1 zoom level about a second after the zoom stops, which throws
>>> you off badly in terms of where you are. It's not my scroll wheel behaving
>>> badly, scroll wheel is ratcheted, nothing like this happens on web pages,
>>> pdfs, etc.
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rtlzeadfkkf3atn/KiCAD_20170801.mov?dl=0
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm using last night's nightly.
>>>>
>>>> Which mac do you have, retina display, external display?
>>>> My schematic operations are super laggy.
>>>>
>>>> To select a few parts, I have to click, wait a few seconds then drag,
>>>> if I don't wait and start dragging and release, the parts never get
>>>> selected.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrey,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you running the stable build or the nightlies?
>>>>> I'm also using 10.12 and while there are some issues, it is usable.  I
>>>>> agree the zooming behavior is somewhat strange on Mac right now, but I
>>>>> don't have any issues with lag or the other things you describe (I'm using
>>>>> nightly builds).
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Previously used KiCAD on Windows, everything worked well, even the
>>>>>> nightlies.
>>>>>> Just started using KiCAD on MAC OSX 10.12.6 on macbook pro 2016 with
>>>>>> 5K display, tried it without external display, no change, tried with low
>>>>>> resolution mode for the program, no change, tried reducing screen
>>>>>> resolution, a little better, but still supper laggy and weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting a new project and currently working in Eeschema.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes 0.7s to rotate an LED symbol clockwise 90 degrees,
>>>>>> everything is so laggy.
>>>>>> Selecting parts, half the time doesn't select probably because I
>>>>>> release too soon, the other half, very slow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using the scroll wheel to zoom in and out causes horrendous lags. Not
>>>>>> only that but somehow it ends up zooming to unpredictable levels when only
>>>>>> 1 mouse scroll is triggered and inertia disabled, because it keeps zooming
>>>>>> and I move the mouse, it ends up zooming not where I was originally
>>>>>> pointing to zoom with 1 scroll wheel trig. For example, sometimes the zoom
>>>>>> doesn't stop right away so instead of zooming by 10 or 25% it goes from
>>>>>> 0.6x to 11x, like WTFFFFFF. So the zoom completely doesn't work, useless.
>>>>>> Why is it that when I press CMD+scroll wheel it scrolls viewport
>>>>>> horizontally?
>>>>>> I have 2 scroll wheels, horiz and vert, both are scrolling
>>>>>> horizontally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Button tool tips take a very long time to show up, I think 2 seconds,
>>>>>> 0.5s -1s should be used, when you're working and need a quick reminder, 2
>>>>>> seconds must as well be 10 seconds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else familiar with things I'm experiencing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Live Long and Prosper,
>>>>>> Andrey
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future
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>>>>
>>>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Live Long and Prosper,
>>>> Andrey
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future
>>> Those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the
>>> future [JFK]
>>>
>>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Live Long and Prosper,
>>> Andrey
>>>
>>
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future [JFK]

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Live Long and Prosper,
Andrey

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