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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't have issues with rendering lag on my Retina display (not in
low-DPI mode) either, unless my board gets very complicated.

I do not run on an external display.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think the Retina display is just one piece of the puzzle re. Mac
> performance.  I have a Retina display and don't have any issues with
> rendering lag (and don't run in low-DPI mode either).  So, I suspect that
> there are some combinations of display + GPU + maybe drivers, library
> versions, etc? that can cause poor performance.
>
> -Jon
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I did.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:11 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you try the tip mentioned on the webpage?
>>>
>>> http://kicad-pcb.org/help/known-system-related-issues/#_osx
>>>
>>> 2017-09-05 16:32 GMT+02:00 Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrey,
>>>>
>>>> I tried to reproduce this and couldn't.  I'm on 10.12.6, on a 2017 rMBP
>>>> with internal display and 2K external display (don't have a 5K, but can't
>>>> see how that would matter).  I also tried with an external mouse and didn't
>>>> see any issue with the scroll wheel.
>>>>
>>>> Any other Mac developers have any ideas to help diagnose this?
>>>> Andrey, it would probably be good to open a bug report so that this
>>>> doesn't get lost in email.
>>>>
>>>> -Jon
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's an example video.
>>>>> I move the scroll wheel one at a time at first, and it zooms very slow,
>>>>> notice it jumps from like 7x to 22x in a single scroll.
>>>>> I tried PCBnew with OpenGL and it has additional problems, it zooms
>>>>> pretty fast compared to Eeschema but when it stops, there's 50:50 chance it
>>>>> will jump 1 zoom level about a second after the zoom stops, which throws you
>>>>> off badly in terms of where you are. It's not my scroll wheel behaving
>>>>> badly, scroll wheel is ratcheted, nothing like this happens on web pages,
>>>>> pdfs, etc.
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rtlzeadfkkf3atn/KiCAD_20170801.mov?dl=0
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using last night's nightly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which mac do you have, retina display, external display?
>>>>>> My schematic operations are super laggy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To select a few parts, I have to click, wait a few seconds then drag,
>>>>>> if I don't wait and start dragging and release, the parts never get
>>>>>> selected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you running the stable build or the nightlies?
>>>>>>> I'm also using 10.12 and while there are some issues, it is usable.
>>>>>>> I agree the zooming behavior is somewhat strange on Mac right now, but I
>>>>>>> don't have any issues with lag or the other things you describe (I'm using
>>>>>>> nightly builds).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov
>>>>>>> <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Previously used KiCAD on Windows, everything worked well, even the
>>>>>>>> nightlies.
>>>>>>>> Just started using KiCAD on MAC OSX 10.12.6 on macbook pro 2016 with
>>>>>>>> 5K display, tried it without external display, no change, tried with low
>>>>>>>> resolution mode for the program, no change, tried reducing screen
>>>>>>>> resolution, a little better, but still supper laggy and weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Starting a new project and currently working in Eeschema.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It takes 0.7s to rotate an LED symbol clockwise 90 degrees,
>>>>>>>> everything is so laggy.
>>>>>>>> Selecting parts, half the time doesn't select probably because I
>>>>>>>> release too soon, the other half, very slow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using the scroll wheel to zoom in and out causes horrendous lags.
>>>>>>>> Not only that but somehow it ends up zooming to unpredictable levels when
>>>>>>>> only 1 mouse scroll is triggered and inertia disabled, because it keeps
>>>>>>>> zooming and I move the mouse, it ends up zooming not where I was originally
>>>>>>>> pointing to zoom with 1 scroll wheel trig. For example, sometimes the zoom
>>>>>>>> doesn't stop right away so instead of zooming by 10 or 25% it goes from 0.6x
>>>>>>>> to 11x, like WTFFFFFF. So the zoom completely doesn't work, useless.
>>>>>>>> Why is it that when I press CMD+scroll wheel it scrolls viewport
>>>>>>>> horizontally?
>>>>>>>> I have 2 scroll wheels, horiz and vert, both are scrolling
>>>>>>>> horizontally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Button tool tips take a very long time to show up, I think 2
>>>>>>>> seconds, 0.5s -1s should be used, when you're working and need a quick
>>>>>>>> reminder, 2 seconds must as well be 10 seconds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone else familiar with things I'm experiencing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Live Long and Prosper,
>>>>>>>> Andrey
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future
>>>>>> Those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the
>>>>>> future [JFK]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Live Long and Prosper,
>>>>>> Andrey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future
>>>>> Those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the
>>>>> future [JFK]
>>>>>
>>>>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Live Long and Prosper,
>>>>> Andrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future
>> Those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the
>> future [JFK]
>>
>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>> Live Long and Prosper,
>> Andrey
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