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[Simon Küppers <simon.kueppers@xxxxxx>]

Altium Designer handles it the following way:

1. Select elements
2. Ctrl+C (or Ctrl+V)
3. Cursor changes. Now select origin by clicking.
4. Elements are now moving along with constant offset to cursor
5. Move to destination and click again (cursor might be snapping to
grid) to paste elements



Am 17.09.2017 um 19:56 schrieb Kristoffer Ödmark:
> Thanks for taking the time to test this, I know testing takes time!
> 
> I took a look at some of the things you mentioned.
> 
>  - I fixed menu entries
>  - I changed some names of functions ( still kept appendFromClipboard,
> but made the action called pasteFromClipboard )
>  - Footprints now render correctly
>  - Added Cut functionality ( not thoroughly tested, just chained a
> copyToClipboard and then a EDIT_TOOL::Remove action after that
> 
> I am a bit unsure about how to proceed with the reference point you
> mentioned, but I think I understand what you want there.
> 
> Please have a look when appropriate, I rather not have to update the
> entire branch in a few months though
> 
> - Kristoffer
> 
> On 09/17/2017 05:33 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote:
>> On 17.09.2017 17:06, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
>>> Hey again, I needed this feature again when copying some tedious
>>> silkscreen drawings that I have not made into a footprint.
>>>
>>> Updated my branch to fit into master. I do agree that adding context
>>> menu entries should be done, but I do not feel it necessary for merging
>>> this unless any other bugs are found.
>>
>> Hi Kristoffer,
>>
>> I tried your patch and I would really love to merge it after some
>> polishing up. Few observations below:
>> - Menu items are necessary. I consider the feature incomplete if it can
>> be only invoked by a keyboard shortcut. We have a lot of users
>> complaining that some functions can be only accessed by shortcuts, why
>> add another item to their list of complaints?
>> - Missing 'Cut' function (Ctrl-X). If we are to add copy-paste, it
>> should work as in every other program.
>> - Name internal events/actions correspondingly to the actions visible in
>> the menus (e.g. copyToClipboard, pasteFromClipboard, etc.), using names
>> like appendFromClipboard, etc. is IMHO confusing.
>> - It would be useful to let the user select a reference point with a
>> mouse when copying/cutting items. This point would become attached to
>> the mouse cursor when the items are being pasted.
>> - While pasting a footprint, it only appears when you click LMB. Other
>> items are displayed while moving the mouse in paste mode.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I am unsure what you mean with netlist-path. If that is that the
>>> timestamp or unique identifier is not there, then from what i gather
>>> that is the same as manually adding a component in pcbnew.
>>>
>>> - Kristoffer
>>>
>>> On 06/23/2017 07:00 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>>> Kristoffer,
>>>>
>>>> I finally had a chance to test this and it seems to work fine.  You
>>>> definitely need to add copy and paste to the context menu and probably
>>>> to the main menu as well.  While ctrl-c and ctrl-v are will known,
>>>> Pcbnew has never had a copy and paste feature so it may be wise to add
>>>> the menu entries for existing users.  The only issue I see is that the
>>>> netlist path is empty so I'm not sure how the this will effect the
>>>> ratsnest and connectivity algorithms.  I'm OK with it as long as no one
>>>> else objects.
>>>>
>>>> Orson,
>>>>
>>>> would you please take a look at this when you get a chance to see if
>>>> this makes sense as far as the tool framework goes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/2017 4:32 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> I fixed the kicad clipboard code according to your comments, it is now
>>>>> linked to ctrl+c and ctrl+v, utilizing different code paths
>>>>> depending on
>>>>> what frame they are invoked at.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also fixed the crashes when trying to paste strange stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code is available for testing at:
>>>>>     
>>>>> https://code.launchpad.net/~kristoffer-odmark/kicad/+git/kicad/+ref/copypasta
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing is missing since I am unsure how to proceed,
>>>>> the context menu entries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I create a new clipboard_tool.cpp/h file and add context
>>>>> entries
>>>>> from there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I add the context entries in the files where they are now?
>>>>> ( selection menu for copying to clipboard, pcbnew_control for pasting,
>>>>> module editor tool for pasting in module editor )
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I do it someway enterily different?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advice
>>>>>
>>>>> - Kristoffer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-05-08 15:41, Maciej Sumiński wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Kristoffer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a neat feature. Your application is a good application, but I
>>>>>> think it would really shine in the footprint editor.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, it
>>>>>> crashes when I tried to copy and paste a bunch of pads. Could you
>>>>>> check it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO it would be better to keep standard Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V hot
>>>>>> keys, as
>>>>>> this is what people are likely to press when they want to copy or
>>>>>> paste
>>>>>> items. These two functions also deserve an entry in the right-click
>>>>>> context menu. Let's not add more hidden features in KiCad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of which, you can also have a look at
>>>>>> MODULE_EDITOR_TOOLS::{Copy,Paste}Items()
>>>>>> (pcbnew/tools/module_editor_tools.cpp). Yes, you guessed it -
>>>>>> there was
>>>>>> already copy & paste for the module editor, but it was not properly
>>>>>> exposed, mea culpa. We need to pick one way, and remove the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are also some code formatting violations that also should be
>>>>>> handled before merging the patch. Tools like uncrustify or
>>>>>> clang-format
>>>>>> will do most of the boring work for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we decide to choose your way, then you need to add GPL license
>>>>>> header
>>>>>> for kicad_clipboard.{cpp,h} too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Orson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/04/2017 10:40 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last night I was doing some design that used a PCB antenna. I had
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> antenna design made in zones, It was very frustrating to try to copy
>>>>>>> this between an old design and a new one since I had to use a
>>>>>>> texteditor
>>>>>>> ( very glad that I could though ).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After this I figured that this should be able to be copy-pasted
>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>> pcbs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I have now implemented a subclass of the PCB_IO, that can
>>>>>>> format an
>>>>>>> entire board or a selection to the clipboard in textformat, and then
>>>>>>> created a subclass to the PCB_PARSER that parses from the clipboard
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> reuses the "append board" functionality to add them back. It also
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> remove the "path" properties of modules. This allows me to
>>>>>>> copy-paste
>>>>>>> things between different PCBs in kicad. The shortcut keys are
>>>>>>> ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v so that people dont use this by
>>>>>>> mistake :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that this might be useful for reusing designs in some
>>>>>>> manner,
>>>>>>> and if this is in Kicad, my next step would be to start looking into
>>>>>>> some tool to link the pasted modules to symbols in the schematic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Give me some insight on what you think about this please :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> video: https://youtu.be/4SuUzma0Ua4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (only tested in linux)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Kristoffer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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