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[Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>]

A further issue that has cropped up twice in the last hour: Library
licensing

https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1259#issuecomment-330374095

https://forum.kicad.info/t/default-libraries-gpl-licencing-vs-proprietary-
designs/140/8


We have been discussing this for a while in this thread -
https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg28181.html

It initially looked like we had a consensus but then it quickly devolved
and never reached a conclusion.

*Without entering into the same back-and-forth again, *and with the
following stipulations:

a) All libraries will have the same license agreeement
b) A single LICENSE.md file will suffice

What license should we be using?

1. CC-BY-SA - This is what Wayne originally suggested IIRC
2. modified GPL similar to gEDA license?


I need a consensus on this so I can add the license files to the
repositories and add the information to the website.

Cheers,
Oliver


On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Oliver,
>
> Great work!  This is really shaping up nicely.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 9/17/2017 12:13 AM, Oliver Walters wrote:
> > Hugo can use external JSON data during the build step, so I've worked
> > out how to list the GitHub library releases directly onto the downloads
> > page!
> >
> > Some progress images here:
> >
> > https://imgur.com/a/2V6E3
> >
> > Most of the framework is in place now. I need some assistance with
> > wording for /discover/libraries but other than that, almost ready to go
> :)
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Oliver Walters
> > <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     Some more
> >     progress: https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1622
> >     <https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/issues/1622>
> >
> >     On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Oliver Walters
> >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >         I have worked out how to transfer the KLC page to the Hugo
> >         templating system (it is SO much harder to use than Jenkins :p)
> >
> >         Example:
> >
> >         https://i.imgur.com/4kZnvOA.png <https://i.imgur.com/4kZnvOA.png
> >
> >
> >         The libraries information is also moved across, but that's just
> >         static content so it's much simpler.
> >
> >         I'll keep you posted.
> >
> >         On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Stambaugh
> >         <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >             On 9/14/2017 8:54 PM, Oliver Walters wrote:
> >             > Ben,
> >             >
> >             > That's also an option, I hadn't considered that! Perhaps I
> was focused
> >             > on the GitHub-side solution too closely.
> >             >
> >             > Wayne, do you want to weigh in here before I spend too
> much further
> >             > effort developing this? Could the libraries page be
> developed on the
> >             > KiCad website itself?
> >
> >             The libraries page could be developed on KiCad website
> >             although I'm not
> >             sure how that would work.  I am comfortable with either
> >             solution.  Pick
> >             which ever solution is the most comfortable for you.  Since
> >             you are
> >             doing the work, you should choose the implementation unless
> >             someone else
> >             is willing step up and help out.  Even the basic overview
> >             that you
> >             presented is far better than anything we have at the
> >             moment.  We can
> >             always add more features later.
> >
> >             >
> >             > The structure could remain largely the same but the
> formatting would
> >             > need to change from Jekyll to Hugo.
> >             >
> >             > Cheers,
> >             > Oliver
> >             >
> >             > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Ben Hest <
> bombledmonk@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bombledmonk@xxxxxxxxx>
> >             > <mailto:bombledmonk@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> bombledmonk@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >             >
> >             >     Does this method provide an advantage over doing a
> similar thing
> >             >     using Hugo and putting the docs on the kicad-pcb.org <
> http://kicad-pcb.org>
> >             >     <http://kicad-pcb.org>
> >             >     website? https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-website
> >             <https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-website>
> >             >     <https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-website
> >             <https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-website>>
> >             >
> >             >
> >             >     - Ben
> >             >
> >             >     On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Oliver Walters
> >             >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >             <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>
> >             >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >             <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >             >
> >             >         Hi everyone,
> >             >
> >             >         The conversation of how best to manage and
> distribute KiCad
> >             >         libraries has been raging for a while now.
> >             >
> >             >         Users looking to download or contribute to the
> libraries are
> >             >         currently presented with a github landing page and
> some bland
> >             >         wiki pages (e.g. for the KLC information).
> >             >
> >             >         I have been working on a new-and-improved website
> system for the
> >             >         following:
> >             >
> >             >         * Clear information about the libraries
> >             >         * A place to download the latest libraries
> >             >         * Information on what is *in* the libraries
> >             >         * Instructions on how to contribute to the libs
> >             >         * Better presentation of the KLC
> >             >
> >             >         This website will need to be updated periodically
> to present the
> >             >         latest version of the libraries to the users.
> Also, if users are
> >             >         going to be downloading library files then it
> could potentially
> >             >         use a lot of bandwidth. Thirdly, the generated
> content should be
> >             >         scripted but statically hosted.
> >             >
> >             >         The solution? GitHub pages! -
> https://pages.github.com/ -
> >             >
> >             >         These are hosted from your github repository, and
> for e.g. ours
> >             >         would have the URL kicad.github.io
> >             <http://kicad.github.io> <http://kicad.github.io> -
> >             >         this could be easily redirected from
> kicad-lib.org/library <http://kicad-lib.org/library>
> >             >         <http://kicad-lib.org/library> (for example).
> >             >
> >             >         GitHub pages use the jekyll toolset to generate
> static content.
> >             >
> >             >         With a small amount of additional Python scripting
> I have
> >             >         created a bare-bones example of what this might
> look like
> >             >         (locally hosted on my laptop for now):
> >             >
> >             >         Here are some screenshots! Ignore the colors and
> simple layout
> >             >         scheme, this is currently just a framework.
> >             >
> >             >         https://imgur.com/a/0GELG
> >             >
> >             >         The main objectives of this project are:
> >             >
> >             >         a) Present a more professional landing page for
> the libraries
> >             >         b) Leverage GitHub Pages functionality
> >             >         c) Improve KLC
> >             >
> >             >         And, eventually:
> >             >
> >             >         Provide a standardised way to separate the KiCad
> libraries from
> >             >         the KiCad installer!
> >             >
> >             >         Thoughts and comments appreciated!
> >             >
> >             >         Cheers,
> >             >
> >             >         Oliver
> >             >
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> >             >     -Ben
> >             >
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