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[Simon Küppers <simon.kueppers@xxxxxx>]

Just to be clear, currently, the plugin does not use GIT. It uses a
proprietary GitHub Interface.

I also checked out gitslave and similar stuff some time ago, but
internally, I was not really satisfied.
One point against something like this might be, that we actually make
the work of the maintainers even harder (?) by expecting them to use a
specific tool that is not even available on Windows (?). After all, the
idea is to make their life easier (and if there might pop out a standard
GIT Plugin at the end, nobody would complain :-))

Looks like this is a really hard problem to solve using the standard
tools and protocols :-(


Am 23.09.2017 um 16:18 schrieb Jason Lund:
> My quarter-cent:
> 
> Echoing Teger12506's comment, there may be some ways to keep them as
> separate repos in GIT and keep them manageable. I've seen gitslave work
> fairly well in situations like this:
> 
> http://gitslave.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Continuing with using GIT sounds like the best option as opposed to
> moving to a different protocol, especially if there was a large effort
> put into a plugin for it on the KiCAD side; it is hugely supported and
> the user-base is probably larger at this point compared to others?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Bastian Neumannn
> <neumann.bastian@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:neumann.bastian@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     True, I see the problem with everything in one repo with branches.
> 
>     Maybe it was not a good idea after all.
> 
>     2017-09-22 11:13 GMT+02:00 Simon Küppers <simon.kueppers@xxxxxx
>     <mailto:simon.kueppers@xxxxxx>>:
> 
>         Good point, actually.
> 
> 
>         Am 22. September 2017 11:08:15 MESZ schrieb Miguel Angel Ajo
>         Pelayo <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:majopela@xxxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>             I believe it's better if each library type has a single
>             directory on the top of the libraries repo, in a single branch.
> 
>             That would let you have branches like
> 
>             master
>             stable/4
>             stable/5
>             stable/6 later on,
> 
>             and point the specific versions of kicad to such branches,
>             in a way that an old version of kicad would not explode if
>             new features appear in libraries in a later version.
> 
> 
>             In that way, it's very easy to backport a change if the
>             library is still backwards-compatible
> 
>             git checkout stable/4
>             git cherry-pick <commit-id-on-stable/5 or master>
>             git push
> 
> 
> 
>             On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
>             <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:majopela@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>                 Please don't use branches for that.
> 
>                 Branches are to track separate development efforts or
>                 release cycles/stabilization.
> 
>                 Using branches, while it's possible was not the intent
>                 when git was designed.
> 
>                 If you do it that way, then you won't be able to use
>                 branches to track libraries in different stabilization
>                 phases, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                 On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Bastian Neumannn
>                 <neumann.bastian@xxxxxxxxx
>                 <mailto:neumann.bastian@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>                     I really like the idea of having one repo with all
>                     the .pretty folders in different branches. The
>                     master can have meta data about the branches.
> 
>                     That also gives the ability to manage library
>                     downloads as you can download the branch as a zip.
> 
>                     Using git for library management is ideally
>                     implemented as a plugin. With the ability to define
>                     own repositories as well. The library downloader can
>                     fetch the branch list and present a  selection to
>                     the user to fetch whatever the user want to fetch.
> 
>                     zip files of the branches can be mirrored on other
>                     servers as well for the people not having access to
>                     github.
> 
>                     Cheers,
>                     Basti
> 
>                     2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Simon Küppers
>                     <simon.kueppers@xxxxxx <mailto:simon.kueppers@xxxxxx>>:
> 
>                         And by the way, this would be a feature that is
>                         completely new to the market (correct me if I'm
>                         wrong). Git integration into eda software.
>                         I only know of altium that has an svn interface
>                         and a proprietary vault. The features both of
>                         which could be (at some point) realized using git.
>                         Innovation is fun :-)
> 
>                         The idea of modifying a footprint from the
>                         standard lib, and generating a patch that could
>                         be directly send to the maintainers (maybe using
>                         the very new library website) would make
>                         contributing very easy!
> 
>                         Am 22. September 2017 10:13:49 MESZ schrieb Ingo
>                         Kletti <ikletti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                         <mailto:ikletti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>                             Hi,
> 
>                             Am 22.09.2017 um 09:44 schrieb Oliver Walters:
> 
>                                 [...] svn has the advantage of being able to
>                                 pull selective directories from GitHub.
>                                 You could present the user with a
>                                 list of which libraries they actually
>                                 want to pull down
> 
> 
>                             So, just like JS (@tiger12506) I'm excited
>                             any time the git integration
>                             comes up for discussion.
> 
>                             While I understand the initial focus on
>                             Github, it's just like Simon stated:
> 
>                                 Why not just ask the user for a working
>                                 directory and pull the
>                                 libraries there using actual git?
>                                 This has the obvious advantage, that
>                                 anyone can use this not only
> 
>                             with > github but also with his or her own
>                             local repository..
> 
>                             Without in-depth knowledge about git vs.
>                             git-plugin vs. svn:
> 
>                             Will it be possible to use another
>                             repository besides Github?
> 
>                             In our case, we require our students to
>                             maintain their project on a
>                             Gitlab server. This server also hosts the
>                             KiCad libraries that were
>                             created for internal purposes. ATM, it's not
>                             possible to just pull the
>                             latest version of the internal KiCad
>                             libraries from inside KiCad
> 
>                             And it might not just be us. I think having
>                             a proper git integration
>                             could ease the library handling of many users.
> 
>                             In the end, a proper git and/or svn
>                             integration would also open the
>                             possibility to directly handle version
>                             management of KiCad projects from
>                             inside KiCad.
> 
>                             Regards,
> 
>                             Ingo
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