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[Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>]

José,

I think this is the correct approach

On 9 Nov 2017 02:56, "José Ignacio" <jose.cyborg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Doing a one-time copy from the system, copy on write like Nick suggested
> or just having kicad download the libraries itself would be the only real
> solutions IMO. Having the installer write to user directories is a no-no
> specially since there can be new users added to the system after kicad gets
> installed, who will have a "broken" install. The copying system in kicad
> also needs to offer at least the most rudimentary mechanism for upgrading
> the user's copies of the library when the system library gets updated (when
> kicad gets upgraded). That should NOT be an automatic process though, as it
> would be useful and expected that the user could review the change before
> touching the libraries.
>
> Also, for users like me that do not use the kicad library, if kicad
> doesn't get installed with libraries none of this copying would happen
> anyway.
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Oliver Walters <
> oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> I think you're right that a deeper understanding of how people are using
>> and managing the libraries is required.
>>
>> However, there still seems to be one of two options if KiCad installs
>> libs into a location where users cannot write:
>>
>> a) Users are not able to update the libraries or otherwise edit them
>> b) Users have to duplicate the library data to somewhere they *do* have
>> access and then reassociate all the library tables
>>
>> I think there is scope for improvement here. I'm not confident enough to
>> say *what* that improvement should be.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the purpose of this change?  In what way will it improve the
>>> user experience?  Before we ask the package devs to do a lot of work, we
>>> might want to dig deeper into the library management issue.  I fail to
>>> see how installing and likely duplicating the entire KiCad library in
>>> the user's home folder solves any of the underlying library management
>>> issues in KiCad other than having write access to modify the installed
>>> libraries which has its own set of issues.  In some respects this has
>>> the potential to complicate things even further.  I suspect the real
>>> issue is out library editing and management tools.  I suggest we wait
>>> until Orson pushes the symbol library editor to see if this improves the
>>> library management situation.  Given what I know about it I suspect that
>>> it will improve things significant on the library management side of
>>> things.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2017 2:02 AM, Oliver Walters wrote:
>>> > To the package maintainers:
>>> >
>>> > For v5 release, can the default library install path be set to a user
>>> > directory rather than program directory that may require administrator
>>> > rights?
>>> >
>>> > e.g. instead of
>>> >
>>> > C:\Program Files\KiCad\share\...
>>> > or
>>> > /usr/share/kicad/...
>>> >
>>> > something like;
>>> >
>>> > C:\Users\Oliver\KiCad\...
>>> >
>>> > /home/Oliver/KiCad
>>> >
>>> > (Not necessarily those paths but something like that).
>>> >
>>> > A lot of users are reporting issues with being able to download or
>>> > modify library files, due to user privileges.
>>> >
>>> > How attainable is such a change before v5 release?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Oliver
>>> >
>>> >
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