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Re: MacOS 4.0.7 release oopsie
Thanks Wayne. I have no personal hesitation against increasing the support
for legacy versions if 10.11 ends up not being sufficient either.
Adam Wolf
On Nov 27, 2017 7:15 AM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think this is fine given our manpower limitations. We may want to
> keep copies of the current stable release around for users who don't
> want to migrate their projects.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 11/26/2017 8:37 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> > I think I agree, and I think this was Mac dev/packager consensus last
> > time this was discussed. Wikipedia says 10.11 is the oldest supported
> > right now, but I can't find any primary source. Just for the record, I
> > think we should lock this in at the start of a stable series. This
> > means whatever oldest version we support for 5.0, we should continue to
> > support until 6.0.
> >
> > Adam Wolf
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2017 7:31 PM, "Simon Wells" <swel024@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:swel024@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > I Think it mainly comes down to, if there is a bug reported on 10.9
> > do we want to be a) trying to sort out why its an issue when we only
> > have newer systems or b) scrambling around trying to find an older
> > install to be able to test the issue and solve it
> >
> > Therefore I think its best to at most only support the oldest
> > version that is still supported by apple at the time 5.0 is released
> > (or at least when the RC is released).
> >
> > It does not stop someone building for an older version of OSX, but
> > if they have issues it is up to them (with the older operating
> > system) to solve them
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 27/11/2017, at 1:41 PM, Adam Wolf
> >> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll definitely be keeping the 4.0 server around for at least 6+
> >> months, but the plan is to generate the 5.0 stable releases from a
> >> 10.x VM. We should have a test image after next weekend. We had
> >> previously discussed using the oldest OS version still getting
> >> security updates, which appears to be 10.11. I could do anything
> >> from 10.9 on.
> >>
> >> Do people think supporting 10.11 and newer is sufficient?
> >>
> >> Adam Wolf
> >>
> >> On Nov 26, 2017 6:23 PM, "Chris Pavlina" <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >> With an upcoming 5.0 I'm not sure how necessary it is to
> >> re-release
> >> 4.0.7 - I just want to make sure the same mistake doesn't get
> >> made for
> >> 5.0...
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:03:48PM +0000, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> >> > 4.0.7-2 seems reasonable if the previous macos version was
> >> 4.0.7-1.
> >> >
> >> > On 11/26/2017 05:25 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >> > > 1) I'll take a look at the script, but I suspect Nick is
> >> correct.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2) What version number should I release this 4.0.7 as?
> >> 4.0.7-2?
> >> > >
> >> > > Adam Wolf
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Nick Østergaard
> >> <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> > >> It is because of what happened in:
> >> > >> [Kicad-developers] Yet another 4.0.7 release bug.
> >> > >>
> >> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg30192.html
> >> <https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg30192.html>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I suspect that the script for the OSX build did not
> >> consider that tags could
> >> > >> move. Which I think could happen like this:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> A tag will get pulled down when you pull normally. But if
> >> it changes
> >> > >> upstream you need to fetch with the --tags option
> >> > >> to sync it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2017-11-26 20:12 GMT+01:00 Chris Pavlina
> >> <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Okay people, wtf happened here.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Helping someone on IRC figure out a PDF export bug on
> >> 4.0.7, when I
> >> > >>> realized this:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> https://misc.c4757p.com/pastes/0AOyojEiEE0V.txt
> >> <https://misc.c4757p.com/pastes/0AOyojEiEE0V.txt>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> ^ "Tag stable release" is commit 631f6d5, on July 14.
> >> The ACTUAL 4.0.7
> >> > >>> tag is on 9f35e38, four commits later on August 1.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Guess which one got released?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Yup, we released the wrong commit for 4.0.7. The older
> >> one, missing
> >> > >>> several bug fixes. How did we manage to release
> >> something that wasn't
> >> > >>> actually tagged as 4.0.7? Doesn't the release build
> >> process involve
> >> > >>> something like "git checkout 4.0.7"? Help me understand
> >> what went wrong
> >> > >>> here...
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I'm still trying to figure out how a commit titled "tag
> >> stable release
> >> > >>> 4.0.7" and the actual 4.0.7 tag do not point at the same
> >> place, let
> >> > >>> alone how the release build process does not actually
> >> directly check out
> >> > >>> the 4.0.7 tag.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --
> >> > >>> Chris
> >> > >>>
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