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My recommendation is to make GL the default but detect problems and fall back when it doesn't work for some reason.
------ Original message------From: Jon EvansDate: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 21:54To: Wayne Stambaugh;Cc: KiCad Developers;Subject:Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Canvas for v5
I know this would be work for someone to do and maybe I'd offer to do it if the project leaders approve...What about a one-time pop-up when first installing a release 5.0 that appears if the config says the user was using legacy canvas, telling them about how to switch and that they should check it out?
-Jon
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't have any issues with this but it will only apply to new

installs.  Existing installs will have the last canvas selected in the

user's kicad config.



On 12/30/2017 04:36 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:

> The power of defaults ;)

>

> This is also something I have encountered has turned a lot of users

> away, because when they try it, they dont really like the setup. So even

> if they can change it, they give up before they realize they can.

>

> -Kristoffer

>

> On 12/30/2017 10:30 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:

>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 09:27:46PM +0000, Jeff Young wrote:

>>> +1.

>>>

>>> (I used legacy for 6 months because I thought the only difference was

>>> in rendering.  I didn’t realise all the tools were different too….)

>>

>> I hear this a _lot_ from beginners. We're shipping so many cool new

>> features that a surprising number of people don't know exist because we

>> hide them.

>>

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> Jeff.

>>>

>>>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 21:13, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Pleeeeeeease!

>>>>

>>>> It makes no sense to use a canvas we call "legacy" as default. GAL may

>>>> still not have 100% feature parity to allow _removing_ legacy but it's

>>>> totally ready to be the default.

>>>>

>>>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 08:51:53PM +0000, José Ignacio wrote:

>>>>> Since the GAL is pretty much feature complete (I have used it

>>>>> exclusively

>>>>> for the last year and a half) and the Cairo canvas has much improved

>>>>> performance (it is *significantly* faster than legacy on my systems),

>>>>> should pcbnew make the switch to have Cairo as the default canvas?

>>>>>

>>>>> I understand OpenGL may still be undesirable because some defective or

>>>>> misconfigured systems may have crashing issues with kicad

>>>>> preventing the

>>>>> user to switch away from OpenGL, but that may even not be the case

>>>>> anymore.

>>>>

>>>>

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