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[Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>]

I like this. If you don't offer, everyone who's already used KiCad 4 and
didn't realize they (c/sh)ould switch to GAL still won't notice that in
KiCad 5. A first-run dialog would be a good idea IMO.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 02:53:50AM +0000, Jon Evans wrote:
> I know this would be work for someone to do and maybe I'd offer to do it if
> the project leaders approve...
> What about a one-time pop-up when first installing a release 5.0 that
> appears if the config says the user was using legacy canvas, telling them
> about how to switch and that they should check it out?
> 
> -Jon
> 
> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > I don't have any issues with this but it will only apply to new
> > installs.  Existing installs will have the last canvas selected in the
> > user's kicad config.
> >
> > On 12/30/2017 04:36 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> > > The power of defaults ;)
> > >
> > > This is also something I have encountered has turned a lot of users
> > > away, because when they try it, they dont really like the setup. So even
> > > if they can change it, they give up before they realize they can.
> > >
> > > -Kristoffer
> > >
> > > On 12/30/2017 10:30 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 09:27:46PM +0000, Jeff Young wrote:
> > >>> +1.
> > >>>
> > >>> (I used legacy for 6 months because I thought the only difference was
> > >>> in rendering.  I didn’t realise all the tools were different too….)
> > >>
> > >> I hear this a _lot_ from beginners. We're shipping so many cool new
> > >> features that a surprising number of people don't know exist because we
> > >> hide them.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Jeff.
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 21:13, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Pleeeeeeease!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It makes no sense to use a canvas we call "legacy" as default. GAL may
> > >>>> still not have 100% feature parity to allow _removing_ legacy but it's
> > >>>> totally ready to be the default.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 08:51:53PM +0000, José Ignacio wrote:
> > >>>>> Since the GAL is pretty much feature complete (I have used it
> > >>>>> exclusively
> > >>>>> for the last year and a half) and the Cairo canvas has much improved
> > >>>>> performance (it is *significantly* faster than legacy on my systems),
> > >>>>> should pcbnew make the switch to have Cairo as the default canvas?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I understand OpenGL may still be undesirable because some defective
> > or
> > >>>>> misconfigured systems may have crashing issues with kicad
> > >>>>> preventing the
> > >>>>> user to switch away from OpenGL, but that may even not be the case
> > >>>>> anymore.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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