Looks good to me.
On 12/31/2017 12:04 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
How about something like this?
Inline image 1
(N.B. I agree with Andy, and think we could consider renaming the
options in the View menu to "Legacy", "Accelerated (OpenGL)" and
"Standard (Cairo)" or something like that)
-Jon
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:swel024@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
What about having the default set to cairo, and when the
first/once run dialog runs it talks about openGL (this goes
against you already set to GAL) but it allows a default that even
if it crashes won’t require manually editing a configuration to
make it workable
User perspective:
The names for the canvases are “engineering terms,” that is,
something named by the developers for their own internal use but
were never renamed for the end user who might have no idea what is
meant by “Cairo canvas” or what “GAL” stands for. I say that
because
early on I asked myself, “WTF is this ‘Cairo’ thing?”
I now understand (I think …) that Cairo and GAL implement the same
features but the latter requires proper OpenGL hardware and
drivers,
and Cairo does not.
So perhaps better terms for these options is “Standard” and
“Accelerated (OpenGL).” Users know what OpenGL means (I hope, it’s
nothing new). As for why a user with access to OpenGL hardware
would
not choose to use it by default? Battery life on a laptop, I
suppose, but in using Kicad for a few years now I can say I’ve
never
used the Cairo canvas at all.
-a
Simon
On 1/01/2018, at 2:48 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I spite of my disdain for nagware, I'll tolerate this under the
following conditions:
The current canvas is not already on one of the gal canvases.
If the
user is already using a gal canvas, a dialog to inform the user
about
the gal canvas is silly.
It's a one shot dialog that never appears again.
If the gal canvas crashes, the user isn't going to have to
manually edit
a configuration file to restore the legacy canvas. This
requirement may
prevent us from setting the opengl canvas as the default so the
solution
may not be as easy as it seems.
On 12/31/2017 07:34 AM, Jeff Young wrote:
+1 to the startup dialog idea.
I think we also need to set reasonable transparencies in the
layers so that it looks more like the default legacy canvas.
I don' think this is necessary given that the gal canvas layer
colors
and transparencies are completely user configurable but I'm not
opposed
to a default layer color/transparency configuration that looks
more like
the legacy canvas.
On 31 Dec 2017, at 10:09, Clemens Koller <cko@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:cko@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
On 2017-12-31 03:53, Jon Evans wrote:
I know this would be work for someone to do and maybe I'd
offer to do it if the project leaders approve...
What about a one-time pop-up when first installing a release
5.0 that appears if the config says the user was using legacy
canvas, telling them about how to switch and that they should
check it out?
-Jon
+1
An initial start-up dialog to setup the "users default" after a
first install or after a "reset Kicad to defaults, as I messed
something up I don't remember" seems very helpful to me. If
OpenGL might still crash in rare cases, warn the user in
advance and explain, how he can safely step back from using
OpenGL in case it doesn't work and how to file a bug report...
Regards,
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