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[Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:01:08AM +0000, Andrey Kuznetsov wrote:
> FYI, the 5th and last icons from the left do not convey what they are about.
> 
> Perhaps you could add the word "Gerber" at the top portion of the icon and
> remove that stupid magnifying glass.

I agree, remove the magnifying glass and hand it to me --- I'll need it
to read the full words you want in the icons...

> 
> The worksheet layout shouldn't have a schematic in gray color in it, why is
> there a schematic in an empty worksheet layout editor? It's not a schematic
> editor...
> I'm not sure what the best icon would look like to represent a worksheet
> layout editor.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Oliver Walters <
> oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > I have attached a patchset which performs the following:
> >
> > 1. Revert libedit icon to previous version
> > 2. Revert modedit icon to previous version
> > 3. Updates pcbnew icon to look more like a PCB
> > 4. Update colors of eeschema icon
> > 5. Various (almost imperceptible) tweaks to a number of icons to fix
> > graphic alignment issues
> >
> > Here is a screenshot of the updated icons:
> >
> >
> > [image: Inline image 2]
> >
> >
> > [image: Inline image 1]
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Walters <
> > oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> On 7 Jan 2018 05:04, "Chris Pavlina" <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> I wish we had something resembling a policy for icons. It seems like
> >> someone always wants to change them. We had decent icons for these
> >> _before_, and then someone submitted new ones, and they were accepted
> >> because... I don't know? Many of the new icons are really ambiguous and
> >> kind of useless. Shouldn't have been merged.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is why I'm pushing for *a* change and not *my* change, I remember
> >> how the argument went last time, before they were silently merged.
> >>
> >> I also note that there is a lack of consistency between similar icons.
> >> e.g. there are many icons which incorporate an arrow but the style/shape of
> >> the arrows varies.
> >>
> >> For the record, I like these proposed ones. They bring back the ability
> >> to recognize them at a glance.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:52:49PM +0000, kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> >> > I would love to see improved icons, I still never get used to them so i
> >> read
> >> > the tooltip, newer know which one is pcb and which one is module editor.
> >> >
> >> > Luckily most of the time I only need to double click the kicad_pcb file
> >> > anyway :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2018-01-06 15:08, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> >> > > 2018-01-06 14:15 GMT+01:00 Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > > <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> >> > >
> >> > >     +1
> >> > >
> >> > >     And I like Oliver’s proposed icons.  I’d suggest two further
> >> > >     changes though:
> >> > >
> >> > >     1) The schematic icon (which Oliver didn’t change) should really
> >> > >     use the default colours (dark red symbols, green wires).  Then
> >> > >     there’s a stronger tie-in with the libedit icon.
> >> > >
> >> > >     2) I think I’d drop the dimensions from the modedit icon, and
> >> > >     change the pad colour to the default (yellow).
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > The default pad color is not yellow, that is only what you see for THT
> >> > > pads. Default pad color is green for bottom and red for top copper
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >     3) Projects should use the current New Project icon, rather than
> >> > >     the application icon.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I have considered to submit a patch for this for some time, but I
> >> guess
> >> > > it is an appropiate time to do this with a major version bump.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >     4) Both the New Project and New Project from Template icons should
> >> > >     get yellow “new” star.
> >> > >
> >> > >     5) New Footprint in modedit also needs the star, and the star on
> >> > >     New Symbol in libedit made more prominent.
> >> > >
> >> > >     Cheers,
> >> > >     Jeff.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >     On 6 Jan 2018, at 12:30, Oliver Walters
> >> > > >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     I think there is a need to tweak the libedit and modedit icons,
> >> > > >     as identified below:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     <Selection_006.png>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     <Selection_007.png>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     1. The blue 'textured' background is out of place with the other
> >> > > >     icons
> >> > > >     2. They are very cluttered and hard to read
> >> > > >     3. Weirdly specific callout of dimensions and part names (out of
> >> > > >     character with other icons)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Further, I think that the pcbnew icon could be adjusted slightly
> >> > > >     to make it look a bit more like a PCB
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Even as someone who uses KiCad on a regular basis I find myself
> >> > > >     double checking which icon I am about to click on (and still
> >> > > >     getting it wrong half of the time).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Below is a /**suggestion**/ of some improvements. I am not
> >> trying
> >> > > >     to back my own horse here, I'd be happy for anyone else to
> >> > > >     suggest a better design for any of these. But I feel that
> >> > > >     changing these icons would be a good improvement to make before
> >> > > >     the v5 release. There have been many people complaining about
> >> > > >     these icons in particular, both here and on the user forums.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     <Selection_008.png>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Is this a worthwhile endeavor, or are people attached to the
> >> > > >     weird blue icons?
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