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[Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx>]

+1 to eeschema icon changes

+1 to reverting libedit and modedit, but with no pencils

+1 to no magnifying glass  (the drill file, net and BOM icons all have three letters on them; I’m sure GBR would fit on the gerber icon)

I still think we need to change the project icon in the navigation to something similar to the New Project icons (instead of the application icon).

Kudos to Oliver for spear-heading this.

Cheers,
Jeff.

> On 7 Jan 2018, at 08:32, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I agree, no pencils, no magnifying glass.
> 
> By the way, anyone else thinks the .lib file icons in the navigation looks weird? If it's meant to look like a few stacked books, why are they tilted in weird directions?
> 
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:swel024@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> if the modedit/libedit icons are to be reverted then i believe the pencils should be removed, seeing as they were used to portray edit i believe but now that pcbnew/eeschema don’t have them they just seem odd
> 
>> On 7/01/2018, at 2:28 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been intending to revert the annotate icon in eeschema to the old one, which made much more sense to me thatn the current one.
>> 
>> 2018-01-07 1:24 GMT+01:00 Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>> I have attached a patchset which performs the following:
>> 
>> 1. Revert libedit icon to previous version
>> 2. Revert modedit icon to previous version
>> 3. Updates pcbnew icon to look more like a PCB
>> 4. Update colors of eeschema icon
>> 5. Various (almost imperceptible) tweaks to a number of icons to fix graphic alignment issues
>> 
>> Here is a screenshot of the updated icons:
>> 
>> 
>> <Selection_010.png>
>> 
>> 
>> <Selection_009.png>
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> On 7 Jan 2018 05:04, "Chris Pavlina" <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> I wish we had something resembling a policy for icons. It seems like
>> someone always wants to change them. We had decent icons for these
>> _before_, and then someone submitted new ones, and they were accepted
>> because... I don't know? Many of the new icons are really ambiguous and
>> kind of useless. Shouldn't have been merged.
>> 
>> This is why I'm pushing for *a* change and not *my* change, I remember how the argument went last time, before they were silently merged. 
>> 
>> I also note that there is a lack of consistency between similar icons. e.g. there are many icons which incorporate an arrow but the style/shape of the arrows varies. 
>> 
>> For the record, I like these proposed ones. They bring back the ability
>> to recognize them at a glance.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:52:49PM +0000, kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
>> > I would love to see improved icons, I still never get used to them so i read
>> > the tooltip, newer know which one is pcb and which one is module editor.
>> >
>> > Luckily most of the time I only need to double click the kicad_pcb file
>> > anyway :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2018-01-06 15:08, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>> > > 2018-01-06 14:15 GMT+01:00 Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>>:
>> > >
>> > >     +1
>> > >
>> > >     And I like Oliver’s proposed icons.  I’d suggest two further
>> > >     changes though:
>> > >
>> > >     1) The schematic icon (which Oliver didn’t change) should really
>> > >     use the default colours (dark red symbols, green wires).  Then
>> > >     there’s a stronger tie-in with the libedit icon.
>> > >
>> > >     2) I think I’d drop the dimensions from the modedit icon, and
>> > >     change the pad colour to the default (yellow).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The default pad color is not yellow, that is only what you see for THT
>> > > pads. Default pad color is green for bottom and red for top copper
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     3) Projects should use the current New Project icon, rather than
>> > >     the application icon.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have considered to submit a patch for this for some time, but I guess
>> > > it is an appropiate time to do this with a major version bump.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     4) Both the New Project and New Project from Template icons should
>> > >     get yellow “new” star.
>> > >
>> > >     5) New Footprint in modedit also needs the star, and the star on
>> > >     New Symbol in libedit made more prominent.
>> > >
>> > >     Cheers,
>> > >     Jeff.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >     On 6 Jan 2018, at 12:30, Oliver Walters
>> > > >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >     I think there is a need to tweak the libedit and modedit icons,
>> > > >     as identified below:
>> > > >
>> > > >     <Selection_006.png>
>> > > >
>> > > >     <Selection_007.png>
>> > > >
>> > > >     1. The blue 'textured' background is out of place with the other
>> > > >     icons
>> > > >     2. They are very cluttered and hard to read
>> > > >     3. Weirdly specific callout of dimensions and part names (out of
>> > > >     character with other icons)
>> > > >
>> > > >     Further, I think that the pcbnew icon could be adjusted slightly
>> > > >     to make it look a bit more like a PCB
>> > > >
>> > > >     Even as someone who uses KiCad on a regular basis I find myself
>> > > >     double checking which icon I am about to click on (and still
>> > > >     getting it wrong half of the time).
>> > > >
>> > > >     Below is a /**suggestion**/ of some improvements. I am not trying
>> > > >     to back my own horse here, I'd be happy for anyone else to
>> > > >     suggest a better design for any of these. But I feel that
>> > > >     changing these icons would be a good improvement to make before
>> > > >     the v5 release. There have been many people complaining about
>> > > >     these icons in particular, both here and on the user forums.
>> > > >
>> > > >     <Selection_008.png>
>> > > >
>> > > >     Is this a worthwhile endeavor, or are people attached to the
>> > > >     weird blue icons?
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