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[Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think GBR might be confusing since Gerber has 2 Rs, why not GRB, see what
I mean? I know it's the file extension .gbr, but how many new people will
figure it out easily? I think "Gerb" would be much better, besides, the
older existing icons use LM2902-N, etc in the icon and that's still
readable by me on 1080p with regular DPI, so Gerb would definitely fit.

I think 3-4 letters on the icons would definitely help, like Krisoffer
suggested.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> +1 to eeschema icon changes
>
> +1 to reverting libedit and modedit, but with no pencils
>
> +1 to no magnifying glass  (the drill file, net and BOM icons all have
> three letters on them; I’m sure GBR would fit on the gerber icon)
>
> I still think we need to change the project icon in the navigation to
> something similar to the New Project icons (instead of the application
> icon).
>
> Kudos to Oliver for spear-heading this.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2018, at 08:32, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I agree, no pencils, no magnifying glass.
>
> By the way, anyone else thinks the .lib file icons in the navigation looks
> weird? If it's meant to look like a few stacked books, why are they tilted
> in weird directions?
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> if the modedit/libedit icons are to be reverted then i believe the
>> pencils should be removed, seeing as they were used to portray edit i
>> believe but now that pcbnew/eeschema don’t have them they just seem odd
>>
>> On 7/01/2018, at 2:28 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I have been intending to revert the annotate icon in eeschema to the old
>> one, which made much more sense to me thatn the current one.
>>
>> 2018-01-07 1:24 GMT+01:00 Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>
>> :
>>
>>> I have attached a patchset which performs the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Revert libedit icon to previous version
>>> 2. Revert modedit icon to previous version
>>> 3. Updates pcbnew icon to look more like a PCB
>>> 4. Update colors of eeschema icon
>>> 5. Various (almost imperceptible) tweaks to a number of icons to fix
>>> graphic alignment issues
>>>
>>> Here is a screenshot of the updated icons:
>>>
>>>
>>> <Selection_010.png>
>>>
>>>
>>> <Selection_009.png>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Walters <
>>> oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7 Jan 2018 05:04, "Chris Pavlina" <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wish we had something resembling a policy for icons. It seems like
>>>> someone always wants to change them. We had decent icons for these
>>>> _before_, and then someone submitted new ones, and they were accepted
>>>> because... I don't know? Many of the new icons are really ambiguous and
>>>> kind of useless. Shouldn't have been merged.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is why I'm pushing for *a* change and not *my* change, I remember
>>>> how the argument went last time, before they were silently merged.
>>>>
>>>> I also note that there is a lack of consistency between similar icons.
>>>> e.g. there are many icons which incorporate an arrow but the style/shape of
>>>> the arrows varies.
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I like these proposed ones. They bring back the ability
>>>> to recognize them at a glance.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:52:49PM +0000, kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
>>>> > I would love to see improved icons, I still never get used to them so
>>>> i read
>>>> > the tooltip, newer know which one is pcb and which one is module
>>>> editor.
>>>> >
>>>> > Luckily most of the time I only need to double click the kicad_pcb
>>>> file
>>>> > anyway :)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2018-01-06 15:08, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>>> > > 2018-01-06 14:15 GMT+01:00 Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     +1
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     And I like Oliver’s proposed icons.  I’d suggest two further
>>>> > >     changes though:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     1) The schematic icon (which Oliver didn’t change) should really
>>>> > >     use the default colours (dark red symbols, green wires).  Then
>>>> > >     there’s a stronger tie-in with the libedit icon.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     2) I think I’d drop the dimensions from the modedit icon, and
>>>> > >     change the pad colour to the default (yellow).
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The default pad color is not yellow, that is only what you see for
>>>> THT
>>>> > > pads. Default pad color is green for bottom and red for top copper
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     3) Projects should use the current New Project icon, rather than
>>>> > >     the application icon.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I have considered to submit a patch for this for some time, but I
>>>> guess
>>>> > > it is an appropiate time to do this with a major version bump.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     4) Both the New Project and New Project from Template icons
>>>> should
>>>> > >     get yellow “new” star.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     5) New Footprint in modedit also needs the star, and the star on
>>>> > >     New Symbol in libedit made more prominent.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Cheers,
>>>> > >     Jeff.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > >     On 6 Jan 2018, at 12:30, Oliver Walters
>>>> > > >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     I think there is a need to tweak the libedit and modedit
>>>> icons,
>>>> > > >     as identified below:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     <Selection_006.png>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     <Selection_007.png>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     1. The blue 'textured' background is out of place with the
>>>> other
>>>> > > >     icons
>>>> > > >     2. They are very cluttered and hard to read
>>>> > > >     3. Weirdly specific callout of dimensions and part names (out
>>>> of
>>>> > > >     character with other icons)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     Further, I think that the pcbnew icon could be adjusted
>>>> slightly
>>>> > > >     to make it look a bit more like a PCB
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     Even as someone who uses KiCad on a regular basis I find
>>>> myself
>>>> > > >     double checking which icon I am about to click on (and still
>>>> > > >     getting it wrong half of the time).
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     Below is a /**suggestion**/ of some improvements. I am not
>>>> trying
>>>> > > >     to back my own horse here, I'd be happy for anyone else to
>>>> > > >     suggest a better design for any of these. But I feel that
>>>> > > >     changing these icons would be a good improvement to make
>>>> before
>>>> > > >     the v5 release. There have been many people complaining about
>>>> > > >     these icons in particular, both here and on the user forums.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     <Selection_008.png>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     Is this a worthwhile endeavor, or are people attached to the
>>>> > > >     weird blue icons?
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