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[Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>]

"GBR" is the standard abbreviation. Here's the official logo direct from
Ucamco:

https://www.ucamco.com/images/product_images/image/69/gbrx2_256x256_black_bg.png

If we put the name of the format in the icon, it should be loosely based
on that. GRB is a horrible idea, nobody abbreviates it to that.

On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 06:43:05PM +0000, Andrey Kuznetsov wrote:
> I think GBR might be confusing since Gerber has 2 Rs, why not GRB, see what
> I mean? I know it's the file extension .gbr, but how many new people will
> figure it out easily? I think "Gerb" would be much better, besides, the
> older existing icons use LM2902-N, etc in the icon and that's still
> readable by me on 1080p with regular DPI, so Gerb would definitely fit.
> 
> I think 3-4 letters on the icons would definitely help, like Krisoffer
> suggested.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > +1 to eeschema icon changes
> >
> > +1 to reverting libedit and modedit, but with no pencils
> >
> > +1 to no magnifying glass  (the drill file, net and BOM icons all have
> > three letters on them; I’m sure GBR would fit on the gerber icon)
> >
> > I still think we need to change the project icon in the navigation to
> > something similar to the New Project icons (instead of the application
> > icon).
> >
> > Kudos to Oliver for spear-heading this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff.
> >
> >
> > On 7 Jan 2018, at 08:32, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I agree, no pencils, no magnifying glass.
> >
> > By the way, anyone else thinks the .lib file icons in the navigation looks
> > weird? If it's meant to look like a few stacked books, why are they tilted
> > in weird directions?
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> if the modedit/libedit icons are to be reverted then i believe the
> >> pencils should be removed, seeing as they were used to portray edit i
> >> believe but now that pcbnew/eeschema don’t have them they just seem odd
> >>
> >> On 7/01/2018, at 2:28 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been intending to revert the annotate icon in eeschema to the old
> >> one, which made much more sense to me thatn the current one.
> >>
> >> 2018-01-07 1:24 GMT+01:00 Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> :
> >>
> >>> I have attached a patchset which performs the following:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Revert libedit icon to previous version
> >>> 2. Revert modedit icon to previous version
> >>> 3. Updates pcbnew icon to look more like a PCB
> >>> 4. Update colors of eeschema icon
> >>> 5. Various (almost imperceptible) tweaks to a number of icons to fix
> >>> graphic alignment issues
> >>>
> >>> Here is a screenshot of the updated icons:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <Selection_010.png>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <Selection_009.png>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Walters <
> >>> oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 7 Jan 2018 05:04, "Chris Pavlina" <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I wish we had something resembling a policy for icons. It seems like
> >>>> someone always wants to change them. We had decent icons for these
> >>>> _before_, and then someone submitted new ones, and they were accepted
> >>>> because... I don't know? Many of the new icons are really ambiguous and
> >>>> kind of useless. Shouldn't have been merged.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is why I'm pushing for *a* change and not *my* change, I remember
> >>>> how the argument went last time, before they were silently merged.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also note that there is a lack of consistency between similar icons.
> >>>> e.g. there are many icons which incorporate an arrow but the style/shape of
> >>>> the arrows varies.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the record, I like these proposed ones. They bring back the ability
> >>>> to recognize them at a glance.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:52:49PM +0000, kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> >>>> > I would love to see improved icons, I still never get used to them so
> >>>> i read
> >>>> > the tooltip, newer know which one is pcb and which one is module
> >>>> editor.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Luckily most of the time I only need to double click the kicad_pcb
> >>>> file
> >>>> > anyway :)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 2018-01-06 15:08, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> >>>> > > 2018-01-06 14:15 GMT+01:00 Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > > <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     +1
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     And I like Oliver’s proposed icons.  I’d suggest two further
> >>>> > >     changes though:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     1) The schematic icon (which Oliver didn’t change) should really
> >>>> > >     use the default colours (dark red symbols, green wires).  Then
> >>>> > >     there’s a stronger tie-in with the libedit icon.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     2) I think I’d drop the dimensions from the modedit icon, and
> >>>> > >     change the pad colour to the default (yellow).
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > The default pad color is not yellow, that is only what you see for
> >>>> THT
> >>>> > > pads. Default pad color is green for bottom and red for top copper
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     3) Projects should use the current New Project icon, rather than
> >>>> > >     the application icon.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I have considered to submit a patch for this for some time, but I
> >>>> guess
> >>>> > > it is an appropiate time to do this with a major version bump.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     4) Both the New Project and New Project from Template icons
> >>>> should
> >>>> > >     get yellow “new” star.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     5) New Footprint in modedit also needs the star, and the star on
> >>>> > >     New Symbol in libedit made more prominent.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >     Cheers,
> >>>> > >     Jeff.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > >     On 6 Jan 2018, at 12:30, Oliver Walters
> >>>> > > >     <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > > >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     I think there is a need to tweak the libedit and modedit
> >>>> icons,
> >>>> > > >     as identified below:
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     <Selection_006.png>
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     <Selection_007.png>
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     1. The blue 'textured' background is out of place with the
> >>>> other
> >>>> > > >     icons
> >>>> > > >     2. They are very cluttered and hard to read
> >>>> > > >     3. Weirdly specific callout of dimensions and part names (out
> >>>> of
> >>>> > > >     character with other icons)
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     Further, I think that the pcbnew icon could be adjusted
> >>>> slightly
> >>>> > > >     to make it look a bit more like a PCB
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     Even as someone who uses KiCad on a regular basis I find
> >>>> myself
> >>>> > > >     double checking which icon I am about to click on (and still
> >>>> > > >     getting it wrong half of the time).
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     Below is a /**suggestion**/ of some improvements. I am not
> >>>> trying
> >>>> > > >     to back my own horse here, I'd be happy for anyone else to
> >>>> > > >     suggest a better design for any of these. But I feel that
> >>>> > > >     changing these icons would be a good improvement to make
> >>>> before
> >>>> > > >     the v5 release. There have been many people complaining about
> >>>> > > >     these icons in particular, both here and on the user forums.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     <Selection_008.png>
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >     Is this a worthwhile endeavor, or are people attached to the
> >>>> > > >     weird blue icons?
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