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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

One good thing about bitmaps is they are low risk (other than the
complaining that will surely ensue) so we can merge them just about any
time.  I don't want to wait too long so our doc images can be updated to
reflect the changes so if we cannot come up with better alternatives to
replace the arrows, I'm OK with leaving them as is and pushing it off
until v6.

Cheers,

Wayne

On 1/9/2018 3:31 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
> I think the changes are absolutely good in general, and I’d very much
> like to see them get merged.  Not that I have any control over that. ;)
> 
> As for the arrows, I’d still really like to see them go away.  The
> colour isn’t the problem, it’s the arrows themselves. ANY of the
> alternatives discussed (that don’t include arrows) would be better.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
> 
> 
>> On 9 Jan 2018, at 20:13, Oliver Walters
>> <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> The coloured arrows were already in place, all I have done is made
>> them all the same "style". In fact, previously concepts like "save"
>> and "load" were conveyed both with a downward pointing arrow, and the
>> arrow colour was the only point of difference. 
>>
>> I thought I had made an improvement on what was already existing. My
>> intent was not to necessarily do a sweeping redesign. 
>>
>> If this is now an additional requirement I can make these not arrows,
>> but I'd like some direction on what to do instead. It will be hard to
>> fit a more detailed icon. 
>>
>> Other than this, what are your thoughts overall? Is it worth my time
>> pursuing this further? Are these changes good in general and can you
>> see them being merged? 
>>
>> On 10 Jan 2018 04:44, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 1/9/2018 12:05 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote:
>>     > On 09/01/18 16:50, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>     >> I'm with Jose on the arrows.  If we are going to use them,
>>     please don't
>>     >> make the all different colors.  I don't see how a blue left
>>     arrow versus
>>     >> a magenta right arrow conveys any meaning to the user.
>>     >>
>>     >
>>     > I like the idea of coloring them differently. For me this will
>>     give an
>>     > additional way to distinguish the buttons. (Some of them have
>>     only the
>>     > direction of the arrow as a difference. Which is easily
>>     overlooked.) I
>>     > hope having different colors will make it easier for my brain to
>>     > remember which button does what. (I can't tell you how often i
>>     clicked
>>     > load symbol instead of update symbol while working on the
>>     reorganization
>>     > of the official lib.)
>>
>>     What information does the different color arrow convey?  If you are
>>     using different colors for contrast, that is one thing but just making
>>     them different colors for informational purposes doesn't make any
>>     sense
>>     to me.  If you are trying convey information with different color
>>     buttons, what is the impact on users who are color blind.
>>
>>     >
>>     > Maybe there is a better way to communicate differences but if
>>     buttons
>>     > look as similar as a lot of them currently do, adding
>>     differentiating
>>     > colors might help.
>>     >
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