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[Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, that's good to hear. I will take another look at the Gerber icons and
otherwise see if anyone can suggest some simple clean replacements for the
arrows. If not, I'll push a patch.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> One good thing about bitmaps is they are low risk (other than the
> complaining that will surely ensue) so we can merge them just about any
> time.  I don't want to wait too long so our doc images can be updated to
> reflect the changes so if we cannot come up with better alternatives to
> replace the arrows, I'm OK with leaving them as is and pushing it off
> until v6.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 1/9/2018 3:31 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
> > I think the changes are absolutely good in general, and I’d very much
> > like to see them get merged.  Not that I have any control over that. ;)
> >
> > As for the arrows, I’d still really like to see them go away.  The
> > colour isn’t the problem, it’s the arrows themselves. ANY of the
> > alternatives discussed (that don’t include arrows) would be better.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff.
> >
> >
> >> On 9 Jan 2018, at 20:13, Oliver Walters
> >> <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >> The coloured arrows were already in place, all I have done is made
> >> them all the same "style". In fact, previously concepts like "save"
> >> and "load" were conveyed both with a downward pointing arrow, and the
> >> arrow colour was the only point of difference.
> >>
> >> I thought I had made an improvement on what was already existing. My
> >> intent was not to necessarily do a sweeping redesign.
> >>
> >> If this is now an additional requirement I can make these not arrows,
> >> but I'd like some direction on what to do instead. It will be hard to
> >> fit a more detailed icon.
> >>
> >> Other than this, what are your thoughts overall? Is it worth my time
> >> pursuing this further? Are these changes good in general and can you
> >> see them being merged?
> >>
> >> On 10 Jan 2018 04:44, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 1/9/2018 12:05 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote:
> >>     > On 09/01/18 16:50, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> >>     >> I'm with Jose on the arrows.  If we are going to use them,
> >>     please don't
> >>     >> make the all different colors.  I don't see how a blue left
> >>     arrow versus
> >>     >> a magenta right arrow conveys any meaning to the user.
> >>     >>
> >>     >
> >>     > I like the idea of coloring them differently. For me this will
> >>     give an
> >>     > additional way to distinguish the buttons. (Some of them have
> >>     only the
> >>     > direction of the arrow as a difference. Which is easily
> >>     overlooked.) I
> >>     > hope having different colors will make it easier for my brain to
> >>     > remember which button does what. (I can't tell you how often i
> >>     clicked
> >>     > load symbol instead of update symbol while working on the
> >>     reorganization
> >>     > of the official lib.)
> >>
> >>     What information does the different color arrow convey?  If you are
> >>     using different colors for contrast, that is one thing but just
> making
> >>     them different colors for informational purposes doesn't make any
> >>     sense
> >>     to me.  If you are trying convey information with different color
> >>     buttons, what is the impact on users who are color blind.
> >>
> >>     >
> >>     > Maybe there is a better way to communicate differences but if
> >>     buttons
> >>     > look as similar as a lot of them currently do, adding
> >>     differentiating
> >>     > colors might help.
> >>     >
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