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[Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>]

>
> Also, would it be too much to ask for getting the arrows, the diskette and
> the folder in the repo with the patch, basically if someone wants to create
> future icons. They could use the same arrows for any kind of export,
> import, save, inspect or view.


I have created a set of "common icons" for exactly this purpose :)


On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark <
kristofferodmark90@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Wow, really nice! Although, the icon for the bitmap2component basically
> looks like a screenshot symbol to me, or something related to a webcam.
>
> The old one isnt as polished, but I think it fits better.
>
> Also, would it be too much to ask for getting the arrows, the diskette and
> the folder in the repo with the patch, basically if someone wants to create
> future icons. They could use the same arrows for any kind of export,
> import, save, inspect or view.
>
> Basically to help get a icon theme thing going ;)
>
>
>
>  -Kristoffer
>
>
> On 01/10/2018 03:13 PM, Oliver Walters wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> Here is the outcome of removing the save / load arrows and replacing with
>> standard load / save icons.
>>
>> I have also further tweaked the main icons as per suggestions.
>>
>> Screenshots here:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/DzZhZ
>>
>> This is about as far as I want to go with this, please let me know if
>> there
>> are any outstanding issues that prevent me from submitting a patch.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oliver
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Oliver Walters <
>> oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, that's good to hear. I will take another look at the Gerber icons and
>>> otherwise see if anyone can suggest some simple clean replacements for
>>> the
>>> arrows. If not, I'll push a patch.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> One good thing about bitmaps is they are low risk (other than the
>>>> complaining that will surely ensue) so we can merge them just about any
>>>> time.  I don't want to wait too long so our doc images can be updated to
>>>> reflect the changes so if we cannot come up with better alternatives to
>>>> replace the arrows, I'm OK with leaving them as is and pushing it off
>>>> until v6.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> On 1/9/2018 3:31 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think the changes are absolutely good in general, and I’d very much
>>>>> like to see them get merged.  Not that I have any control over that. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the arrows, I’d still really like to see them go away.  The
>>>>> colour isn’t the problem, it’s the arrows themselves. ANY of the
>>>>> alternatives discussed (that don’t include arrows) would be better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jeff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 Jan 2018, at 20:13, Oliver Walters
>>>>>> <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The coloured arrows were already in place, all I have done is made
>>>>>> them all the same "style". In fact, previously concepts like "save"
>>>>>> and "load" were conveyed both with a downward pointing arrow, and the
>>>>>> arrow colour was the only point of difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I had made an improvement on what was already existing. My
>>>>>> intent was not to necessarily do a sweeping redesign.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is now an additional requirement I can make these not arrows,
>>>>>> but I'd like some direction on what to do instead. It will be hard to
>>>>>> fit a more detailed icon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other than this, what are your thoughts overall? Is it worth my time
>>>>>> pursuing this further? Are these changes good in general and can you
>>>>>> see them being merged?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018 04:44, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      On 1/9/2018 12:05 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote:
>>>>>>      > On 09/01/18 16:50, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>>>>>      >> I'm with Jose on the arrows.  If we are going to use them,
>>>>>>      please don't
>>>>>>      >> make the all different colors.  I don't see how a blue left
>>>>>>      arrow versus
>>>>>>      >> a magenta right arrow conveys any meaning to the user.
>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      > I like the idea of coloring them differently. For me this will
>>>>>>      give an
>>>>>>      > additional way to distinguish the buttons. (Some of them have
>>>>>>      only the
>>>>>>      > direction of the arrow as a difference. Which is easily
>>>>>>      overlooked.) I
>>>>>>      > hope having different colors will make it easier for my brain
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>      > remember which button does what. (I can't tell you how often i
>>>>>>      clicked
>>>>>>      > load symbol instead of update symbol while working on the
>>>>>>      reorganization
>>>>>>      > of the official lib.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      What information does the different color arrow convey?  If you
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>      using different colors for contrast, that is one thing but just
>>>>>>
>>>>> making
>>>>
>>>>>      them different colors for informational purposes doesn't make any
>>>>>>      sense
>>>>>>      to me.  If you are trying convey information with different color
>>>>>>      buttons, what is the impact on users who are color blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      > Maybe there is a better way to communicate differences but if
>>>>>>      buttons
>>>>>>      > look as similar as a lot of them currently do, adding
>>>>>>      differentiating
>>>>>>      > colors might help.
>>>>>>      >
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