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Message #33159
Re: eeschema Save
a'
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a' - the icon is disks, not arrow to drive, I hate that icon, it's the
hardest icon to recognize. Arrow to drive implies download to me, not save
to disk.
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The *function* is always the same: save as many sheets as there are. The
> only question is how to communicate that to the user.
>
> Your reply sounds like a vote for (a)(ii), although you weren’t specific
> about the tooltip side of things.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 13 Jan 2018, at 19:23, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> What is the problem with saving ALL schematics in the project that have
> been edited, whether it's a 1 sheet or heirarchy sheet project?
> Are there times when you only want to save that sheet but not the other
> sheets? If yes, then maybe add 2 save buttons, save and save all, if not
> then just the save all button
>
> I am against using schematic icon with a disk, too much complexity!
>
> You should simply use:
> Disk icon for Save
> and/or
> Multi-Disk icon for Save All
>
> There is no purpose in indicating that you want to save a schematic in a
> schematic application when calling for a Save.
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> The eeschema Save button’s tooltip reads “save schematic *project*”
>> (emphasis mine). Because of that, it got the
>> project-with-superimposed-disk in the recent icon update. I don’t think
>> either of those is optimal.
>>
>> There are 3 distinct concepts:
>>
>> 1) Kicad projects (containing schematics, PCBs, gerbers, etc.)
>> 2) A hierarchy of schematic sheets
>> 3) A single schematic sheet
>>
>> The differentiation between (2) and (3) is a bit confusing because the
>> eeschema window only deals with (2) while we represent schemas in the
>> file-system at (3).
>>
>> But we should make every effort not to conflate (1) with (2). I think
>> the word “project” should be reserved for use in the context of (1).
>>
>> So I can see 4 options for the eeschema Save option:
>>
>> a) sidestep the issue and go with the arrow-to-disk icon (a la pcbnew)
>> b) use a schematic-with-superimposed-disk icon
>> c) use a stacked-schematic-with-superimposed-disk icon (a la the
>> hierarchical-sheet-tool icon)
>> d) context-sensitive schematic or stacked-schematic icon
>>
>> And a few for the tooltip:
>>
>> i) use “save all schematics in hierarchy”
>> ii) use “save schematic(s)”
>> iii) make it context-sensitive, reading either “save schematic” or “save
>> all schematics in hierarchy”
>>
>> Personally, I think context-sensitivity is appropriate for the tool-tip,
>> but not the icon. So I’d be inclined to go with (b) or (c) and (iii).
>>
>> As an aside, project files (*.pro) are still using the application icon,
>> rather than the Project icon. That makes the New Project / New Project
>> from Template / Open Project icons harder to understand.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff.
>>
>> BTW: I’m happy to help fix up any of these issues….
>>
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