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[Fabrizio Tappero <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
I do not mean to offend anybody but, for years, there have been people
working very hard on the look of KiCad UI (see credits for details).

I have designed, and mediated with, the looks of KiCad for several years
and I am afraid the icons that have been submitted are not a step forward.
When it is about icons, everybody has an opinion and, in general, that is a
good thing.

Kicad Icons are 26pix for 26pix, if you want to adventure in designing an
icon for KiCad I suggest to open Inkscape with a 26X26 preview and try to
put stuff in it and see how it looks. Additionally, generally speaking,
colors cannot be too poppy and edges cannot be too sharp. In 2018 it is not
recommendable to write things in a 26pX26p icon nor overlay one image on
top of an other. Edges should be highlighter with an additional negative
edge. All this is just common sense (not even knowledge) in the practice of
designing icons.

Not to offend anybody but to an mildly trained eye, all the icons that you
submitted are not even close to the quality of what, for instance,
Konsantin has posted few mails up.

An other thing is documentation, Kicad looks cannot be changed in one go
but changes must happen slowly so that documentation does not stay out of
sync.

There are many icons that I know are not so good but I also know that now
there are really a lot of icons that are not so good.

My humble opinion, but it is just my humble opinion is to reverse all this
icon changes and if there is anybody interested in adventuring into icon
design and submit new icons, please go ahead and submit these icons to
myself and/or Konstantin so that we review them. Once again, this is just
my opinion.

I know that all these icons you submitted in the last 7 days seem better
and pop out more and are more meaningful to you. I think they are not.

I hope I have not offended anybody with the rant.


Cheers
Fabrizio










On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Michael Kavanagh <
michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Can I suggest after v5 UI/graphic design is split off into a separate
> group with a suitably qualified person in charge (e.g. like the lib/docs
> maintainers)? With a core team and a UI policy it might make for a more
> cohesive look and feel rather than several people having a crack at
> different bits in different applications.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> On 12 January 2018 at 12:46, Константин Барановский <
> baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Forgot to attach the source of bitmap2component icon.
>>
>> 2018-01-12 14:39 GMT+02:00 Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>> Agreed.  Your bitmap2component idea is excellent.
>>>
>>> > On 12 Jan 2018, at 12:37, jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Le 12/01/2018 à 13:27, Константин Барановский a écrit :
>>> >> Thanks for your answers. What are you think about this icon for
>>> bitmap2component?
>>> >
>>> > I do like the pcb calculator and the bitmap2component icons.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> 2018-01-12 13:00 GMT+02:00 Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>> swel024@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>>> >>
>>> >>    I agree with Jeff, Not a fan of the pcbnew/modedit/gerbview icons,
>>> I don’t mind the eeschema
>>> >>    icon, but also not a fan of the bmp2cmp icon, the only way i can
>>> see bmp2cmp being better would
>>> >>    be a (well known) bitmap looking square with an arrow pointing to
>>> a footprint and/or symbol
>>> >>
>>> >>    Simon
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>    On 12/01/2018, at 11:47 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>> jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    I like the more subdued colours in Oliver’s, although I do like
>>> your calculator icon (perhaps
>>> >>>    with Oliver’s pcb colouring in the background).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    Cheers,
>>> >>>    Jeff.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>    On 12 Jan 2018, at 10:22, Константин Барановский <
>>> baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>    <mailto:baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>    Hi Everybody!
>>> >>>>    As you know (or not) I'm work on new icons for KiCad for a long
>>> time:
>>> >>>>    https://code.launchpad.net/~baranovskiykonstantin/kicad/+git
>>> /kicad/+ref/new_icons_rebased
>>> >>>>    <https://code.launchpad.net/%7Ebaranovskiykonstantin/kicad/+
>>> git/kicad/+ref/new_icons_rebased>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>    And inspired by changes in app icons I made my variant.
>>> >>>>    Please, leave feedback.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>    2018-01-12 5:28 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>        Awesome, thanks!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>        Looks good.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>        On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:27 PM Oliver Walters <
>>> oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>        <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>            Andrey,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>            Here's all I can provide currently (at work!)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>            <image.png>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>            I have sent the entire patch to Wayne and JP privately
>>> so the merging is now in their
>>> >>>>            capable hands :)
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>>> >
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