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[Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>]

JP,

"Synchronized pin edit mode propagates all pin changes but pin number
change to other units"
is very confusing, either use except or pauses or commas or restructure the
meaning of negatives or specifiers.

Perhaps change to:
"Synchronized pin edit mode propagates all pin changes to other units
except renumbering of pins"
Although I'm still not quite sure of the meaning of the sentence, so maybe
this is wrong.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:07 AM, jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Le 24/01/2018 à 16:33, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit :
> > Orson,
> >
> > Looks fine to me.  I'm not sure how clear the icon will be to users but
> > it makes more sense to me than the current icon.  The wording definitely
> > makes more sense.  Thanks for fixing this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Wayne>
> > On 1/24/2018 9:28 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote:
> >> I attach a patch that hopefully describes the mode a bit clearer. There
> >> is also a new icon to reflect the new logic behind the patch (see the
> >> attached imaged for comparison: left is the old icon, right is the
> >> proposed icon).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Orson
> >>
>
>
> Looks also fine to me.
>
> However, the sentence:
> "Synchronized pin edit mode propagates all pin changes to other units"
> should be something like:
> "Synchronized pin edit mode propagates all pin changes but pin number
> change to other units"
>
> Because pin number is specific to each unit.
>
> >> On 01/23/2018 05:09 PM, jp charras wrote:
> >>> Le 23/01/2018 à 16:55, Maciej Sumiński a écrit :
> >>>> On 01/23/2018 04:35 PM, jp charras wrote:
> >>>>> Le 23/01/2018 à 12:18, Maciej Sumiński a écrit :
> >>>>>> I am trying to find a better description for pin edition coupling
> in the
> >>>>>> symbol library editor (the rightmost button on the top toolbar). My
> >>>>>> proposal is in the attached patch, but perhaps one of our native
> English
> >>>>>> speakers can come up with a clearer description.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Orson
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, this is a good proposal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, it is not yet perfect.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For historical reasons, the tool that controls the multiunit pin
> edit mode enables this mode when it
> >>>>> is disabled (not activated), and disable the multiunit pin edit mode
> when it is activated.
> >>>>> (because a long time ago, multiunit parts with interchangeable units
> were 99% of symbols, and
> >>>>> disabling this multiunit pin edit mode (activating the tool) was
> useful for only 1% of symbols )
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For instance, the sentence is not clear:
> >>>>> "Normally enabled for multiunit parts with interchangeable units."
> >>>>> If "Normally enabled" is related to the pin edit mode, this is true,
> but the tool is not in
> >>>>> activated state
> >>>>> If "Normally enabled" is related to the tool, the sentence is wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Therefore it is really not easy to give a short and understandable
> explanation in a tooltip.
> >>>>> (unless changing the tool action)
> >>>>
> >>>> Good point Jean-Pierre. I think the way forward is to rename the
> button
> >>>> from "Disable synchronized pin edit mode" to "Synchronized pin edit
> >>>> mode", so the button enabled will represent the active state. Removing
> >>>> negations will make the description very clear. We can still keep it
> >>>> enabled by default for multi-unit parts with interchangeable units.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Orson
> >>>
> >>> For me, renaming the button (and slightly changing the icon look to
> avoid mistakes: the main issue
> >>> between versions 4 and 5 and old docs) is the less bad way.
> >>>
> >>> (I don't know a good way)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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