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[Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx>]

Do all our platforms have an OS default?  If so, I agree: nuke the setting entirely.

> On 8 Feb 2018, at 17:42, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> We agree, good job, 24->0 words!
> No need to specify something that's already been set system wide.
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> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 3:42 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> > … or "Set default text editor and PDF viewer programs to open files from KiCad”
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>> +1
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> One could interpret “open files from KiCad” as being “Open files created by KiCad.”
> 
> The point I was trying to make, and perhaps wasn’t clear on, is that applications should never modify operating-system defaults that affect other applications. Thus saying “open files from (within) KiCad” is unnecessary, as it is understood that this setting affects performing this operation from within Kicad only.
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> I suppose, further, that this whole thing about choosing which PDF viewer and which text editor to use is completely unnecessary. Why _wouldn’t_ KiCad open text files in the OS default text editor? Why _wouldn’t_ you want it to open PDF files in the OS default PDF viewer? I set those defaults in the OS for a reason, and I expect applications to uses those defaults.
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> -a
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>>> On 8 Feb 2018, at 10:15, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, that sentence is unnecessarily long.
>>> 
>>> By rephrasing, you can cut that text in half. Also, why is text editor and PDF viewer in the same context? Default text editor and default PDF viewer do not open the same files, is this a context for a Group where those 2 are defined, weird...
>>> 
>>> Telling the user that he "may define" a"Default Text Editor" is redundant, same for favorite, default is better, that's what is seen across many programs, you define a default program to open files, you don't define a favorite program. "These settings" redundant because you are in a settings editor window, duhh. 
>>> 
>>> How about "Set default text editor and PDF viewer programs"?
>>> 
>>> If you want to be more explicit: "Set default text editor and PDF viewer programs for use by KiCad" or "Set default text editor and PDF viewer programs to open files from KiCad"
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>>> > On Feb 7, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Marco Ciampa <ciampix@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ciampix@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> > I am not a native english,
>>> 
>>> Your English is better than my Italian!
>>> 
>>> > so I think it is better to ask even for small phrases:
>>> >
>>> > Here:
>>> >
>>> > #. type: Plain text
>>> > #: kicad.adoc:246
>>> > msgid ""
>>> > "You may define your favorite text editor and PDF viewer. These settings are "
>>> > "used whenever you want to open a text or PDF file."
>>> >
>>> > I would have written it in a more esplicit way like:
>>> >
>>> > "You may define your favorite text editor and PDF viewer. These settings are "
>>> > "used by KiCad whenever you want to open a text or PDF file from the inside "
>>> > "of any of the KiCad tools."
>>> >
>>> > Comments?
>>> 
>>> In general, I’m a fan of being as explicit and clear as possible. But, in this case, I think the user should be aware that s/he’s setting something from within Kicad, and as such that setting is only relevant when interacting with a Kicad tool.
>>> 
>>> -a
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