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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

KiCad uses the system default association when opening a text or pdf
file from within KiCad unless you explicitly change it.  I would think
most users are aware that the system already has a default app
associated with text and pdf files.  The KiCad option is to use
something other than the system default so the wording should say
something to that affect.

On 2/8/2018 12:51 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
> Do all our platforms have an OS default?  If so, I agree: nuke the
> setting entirely.
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2018, at 17:42, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> We agree, good job, 24->0 words!
>> No need to specify something that's already been set system wide.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     On Feb 8, 2018, at 3:42 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx
>>>     <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     > … or "Set default text editor and PDF viewer programs to open files from KiCad”
>>>
>>>     +1
>>
>>     One could interpret “open files from KiCad” as being “Open files
>>     created by KiCad.”
>>
>>     The point I was trying to make, and perhaps wasn’t clear on, is
>>     that applications should never modify operating-system defaults
>>     that affect other applications. Thus saying “open files from
>>     (within) KiCad” is unnecessary, as it is understood that this
>>     setting affects performing this operation from within Kicad only.
>>
>>     I suppose, further, that this whole thing about choosing which PDF
>>     viewer and which text editor to use is completely unnecessary. Why
>>     _wouldn’t_ KiCad open text files in the OS default text editor?
>>     Why _wouldn’t_ you want it to open PDF files in the OS default PDF
>>     viewer? I set those defaults in the OS for a reason, and I expect
>>     applications to uses those defaults.
>>
>>     -a
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>     On 8 Feb 2018, at 10:15, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>     <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Wow, that sentence is unnecessarily long.
>>>>
>>>>     By rephrasing, you can cut that text in half. Also, why is text
>>>>     editor and PDF viewer in the same context? Default text editor
>>>>     and default PDF viewer do not open the same files, is this a
>>>>     context for a Group where those 2 are defined, weird...
>>>>
>>>>     Telling the user that he "may define" a"Default Text Editor" is
>>>>     redundant, same for favorite, default is better, that's what is
>>>>     seen across many programs, you define a default program to open
>>>>     files, you don't define a favorite program. "These settings"
>>>>     redundant because you are in a settings editor window, duhh. 
>>>>
>>>>     How about "Set default text editor and PDF viewer programs"?
>>>>
>>>>     If you want to be more explicit: "Set default text editor and
>>>>     PDF viewer programs for use by KiCad" or "Set default text
>>>>     editor and PDF viewer programs to open files from KiCad"
>>>>
>>>>     On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>     <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         > On Feb 7, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Marco Ciampa
>>>>         <ciampix@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ciampix@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>         >
>>>>         > Hello,
>>>>         > I am not a native english,
>>>>
>>>>         Your English is better than my Italian!
>>>>
>>>>         > so I think it is better to ask even for small phrases:
>>>>         >
>>>>         > Here:
>>>>         >
>>>>         > #. type: Plain text
>>>>         > #: kicad.adoc:246
>>>>         > msgid ""
>>>>         > "You may define your favorite text editor and PDF viewer.
>>>>         These settings are "
>>>>         > "used whenever you want to open a text or PDF file."
>>>>         >
>>>>         > I would have written it in a more esplicit way like:
>>>>         >
>>>>         > "You may define your favorite text editor and PDF viewer.
>>>>         These settings are "
>>>>         > "used by KiCad whenever you want to open a text or PDF
>>>>         file from the inside "
>>>>         > "of any of the KiCad tools."
>>>>         >
>>>>         > Comments?
>>>>
>>>>         In general, I’m a fan of being as explicit and clear as
>>>>         possible. But, in this case, I think the user should be
>>>>         aware that s/he’s setting something from within Kicad, and
>>>>         as such that setting is only relevant when interacting with
>>>>         a Kicad tool.
>>>>
>>>>         -a
>>
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>> kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Live Long and Prosper,
>> Andrey
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