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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

2018-01-15 11:55 GMT+01:00 Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Hi,
>
> adding some notes here for the planned Debian packaging.
> Jean-Samuel emailed my some days ago already about his planes and we
> have tried to stay in contact about a consistent packaging schema
> between Ubuntu and Debian which makes absolutely sense in my eyes.
>
> Am 15.01.2018 um 09:40 schrieb Jean-Samuel Reynaud:
> ...
> > *New package situation:*
> >
> > So I have reshaped packages:
> >
> > kicad-library
> > kicad-library-footprints
> > kicad-library-packages3d
> > kicad-library-symbols
> > kicad-library-templates
>
> I've agree on those new needed binary packages, which will also
> introduce the depending new source packages.
>

So what did the final naming become?

According to the PPA it looks like:
https://code.launchpad.net/~js-reynaud/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-kicad/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=artful

kicad-library (not sure what this does)
kicad-library-all (date of this is older than the packages, but I guess
this is a meta package)
kicad-library-footprints
kicad-library-packages3d
kicad-library-symbols
kicad-library-templates

While on the figure on your page I see:
https://wiki.debian.org/KiCad
kicad-libraries (meta package for footprint, symbols and templates)
kicad-footprint
kicad-packages3d
kicad-symbols
kicad-templates


>
> > kicad-library is a meta package. It had a dependency (recommend, not
> > strong) to each others.
>
> In terms of Debian and Ubuntu there is only Recommends and Suggests
> available. The difference between both is simple that a Suggests will
> never be installed automatically, a Recommends will be installed unless
> the user is turning this globally off (default in on) or while calling
> 'apt install' by the option '--no-install-recommends'.
> There is no strong or soft recommending.
>
> I suggested to use 'kicad-libraries' as the package name and make
> 'kicad-library' a transitional package.
>
> > The version of this package will be prefixed with a "1:" to put it on
> > the front of older version of kicad-library.
>
> This is not needed in my eyes. The sense of a epoch version is something
> different [1]. As long as the new version number for
> 'kicad-libra[y|ies]' is greater than the previous one the update will
> work as wanted, the new version is overwriting the old package.
> But I haven't looked at the existing PPA packages from Jean-Samuel in
> detail until now.
>
> > kicad-library-packages3d own all 3D. This package have a large size (~
> > 330M, 4G on disk) . It will have a recommended dependency to
> > kicad-library-footprint
> >
> > kicad-library-footprints own all footprints
> > kicad-library-symbols same with symbols
> > kicad-library-templates same with ... templates ;)
> >
> > All kicad-library-* packages have a conflict constraint to
> > kicad-library << 1:0.1 and kicad-common (as before).
> > There is also a recommended dependency to kicad-library >= 1:0.1.
> >
> > This last point will avoid cross installation between kicad-library
> > version since those packages are be incompatible (shared files...).
>
> As written, not needed as long the new version is greater than the old
> one, and this is a hard requirement. If you use epoch you allow some
> smaller version explicitly.
>
> > *Migration*
> >
> > No specific action are required. Update will do his jobs automatically.
> > Anyway you can now install only one package if you want limit disk
> > space/download time...
> >
> > If you experience any errors, please let me know ! Main error that can
> > be found is one file in two packages (file conflict)...
>
> Ubuntu has no piuparts testing? In Debian there exists piuparts which is
> testing several constellations of possible upgrading a package.
>
> I hope I can start in the next weeks to modify the existing KiCad
> package in Debian to adopt Jean-Samuel package suggestions and uploading
> the new packages to NEW.
> My work on NGspice is no hard dependency foe KiCad but Want to get this
> out of the door before starting new things. If someone want to jump on
> to the packaging just ping me. Some experience with the Debian packaging
> would be appreciated!
> I will also travel to FOSDEM, so if someone want to do some face 2 face
> talking also just ping me. ;)
>
>
> [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#version
> [2] https://piuparts.debian.org/
>
> --
> Regards
> Carsten Schoenert
>
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