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[Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Wayne and Jeff (and yes there are a lot of edge cases here to sort
out)

Note that Andrzej Wolski already did propose some changes related to this
that might be good to merge as a first step.
I have only done limited testing on them so far but they do work and
resolve some of the problems:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1743890/comments/6
https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg34009.html

-Jon

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Jon,
>
> Sounds good to me too.  A few edge-cases you might want to watch out for:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1733894
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1744521
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1744730
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 18 Feb 2018, at 22:36, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hey Jon,
>
> I'm good with all of this.  I would like to get this cleaned up before the
> stable release if possible since there are so many complaints and bug
> reports about it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 02/18/2018 03:00 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Right now the behavior of the "Layer" and "Render" tabs of the layers
> widget are confusing to users, resulting in complaints on the forum and
> some bug reports:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1748181
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1743890
> I could take a crack at fixing this (before or after 5.0 depending on what
> the complexity ends up being) but before I write any code I wanted to
> propose how I think it should work.
> I think the visibility of any object should be the AND of layer visibility
> and render visibility.
> To get there:
> 1) In the Render tab, get rid of the distinction between front/back. For
> example "Pads Back" and "Pads Front" becomes just "Pads"
> 2) Change the visibility code so that an object is visible if (a) the
> associated Render setting is turned on for the type of object, and (b) at
> least one of the layers the object is on is enabled in the Layers tab.
> 3) (optionally) Rename "Render" to something more friendly like "Items" or
> "Item Types" to make it more clear to the user that this is where they can
> turn off the display of various types of items as opposed to various layerse
> If this plan is OK, I will start working out the details of how to get
> there.  Right now the Render tab is directly controlling the visibility of
> certain "GAL Layers" but unfortunately the set of objects that appears on
> one GAL layer is not always equal to the set of objects that the user would
> expect to turn on and off, as seen by the bug reports.  So, there will have
> to be some additional logic created to manage these settings beyond just
> turning on and off layers in the GAL.
> -Jon
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