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Re: IPC-2581

 

On 02/20/2018 07:20 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
> Maybe we should submit the kicad board file for acceptance as the standard. ;)

It’s actually not a bad idea.  My board house takes Gerbers or Kicad, and nothing else.

Plus, it’s open source, which standards bodies like.  (But even commercial stuff /can/ become a standard — I was part of the team that submitted PDF to ISO.)

As much as this would amuse me, I don't think the kicad board format has all the information that the big EDA players would consider necessary. Those features are coming but it will take time. The fact that board houses are using the kicad board file directly is a testament to how easy it is to use and I consider that a feather in KiCad's cap.


Cheers,
Jeff.


On 20 Feb 2018, at 23:49, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Standards always seem like a good idea on the surface but they don't seem to work as well in practice.  On thing that is certain, gerber is still the defacto standard for having boards manufactured.  Lover or hate em, they are not going anywhere any time soon.  Of the few board houses that I use, none of the them take IPC-2581 so I'm not sure spending valuable developer resources on something that might not even come to fruition even makes sense.  I would rather the limited resources we have stay focused on the features in the next version road map.  What is interesting, I know of more board houses that directly take kicad board files than IPC-2581 to produce boards.  Maybe we should submit the kicad board file for acceptance as the standard. ;)

As for someone attending the meetings, I don't think anyone in their right mind would want me to sit in on those meetings.  I know several engineers who have sat on other standards boards and I know I would not be a good fit.  Politics is not my forte.  Maybe someone else with a bit more political skill than I have can represent KiCad.

On 02/20/2018 12:37 PM, Ouabache Designworks wrote:
Looks like they have corporate and individual memberships. Individual is free and probably has no vote. Corp probably costs $$ but gives you a ballot. It would be nice if Kicad had an official rep that could attend meetings, propose rules and vote. At least that way we would know where we differed from
the standard and could move to support it.
John Eaton
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Cozens <kevin@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kevin@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:kevin@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
   On 2018-02-20 11:19 AM, Ouabache Designworks wrote:
       Does Kicad have anyone working with these folks?
   [snip]
http://www.ipc2581.com/articles-and-blogs/
       <http://www.ipc2581.com/articles-and-blogs/>
   I took a look at the website. It sounds interesting but they don't
   have a lot of information available on the site. Part of what I see
   is what I consider one of those typical industry things where you
   need to join the organization in order to gain access to the
   information. I suspect that to get a copy of the actual standard you
   will have to give them some money at some point.
   --     Cheers!
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