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Re: [RFC] Change to object visibility system for usability/clarity
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Maciej Sumiński <maciej.suminski@xxxxxxx>
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Thu, 22 Feb 2018 17:35:11 +0100
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Good catch, thank you Andrzej. I have just committed your patch to the
master branch.
Cheers,
Orson
On 02/22/2018 02:43 PM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> thanks for merging. I have a complementary patch that fixes problem with
> selecting hidden tracks.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrzej
>
>
> On 02/21/2018 08:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> Andrzej,
>>
>> I merged your patches. Hopefully this will tamp down some of the layer
>> visibility complaints. Thank you for your contribution to KiCad.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 2/21/2018 12:44 PM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> in attachment all 3 patches I have, rebased.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrzej
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/21/2018 05:45 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>>> Andrzej,
>>>>
>>>> This patch does not apply cleanly. Please rebase and resubmit it when
>>>> you get a chance.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> On 2/21/2018 11:27 AM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
>>>>> Wayne,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attached that patch to bug report whom which you messaged me,
>>>>> thought you will see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm attaching it again in this email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrzej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/21/2018 05:20 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>>>>> Andrzej,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have not replied to my last message about your original patch
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you sent to the developers mailing list[1]. I need that one so I can
>>>>>> apply and test the rest of your layer visibility patches. If you
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> these to make it into rc1, please send me this patch as an attachment
>>>>>> soon. I am planning to branch rc1 by Friday at the latest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg34009.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/19/2018 10:05 AM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
>>>>>>> Patch (in attachment) for "Tracks" turned out to be very simple.
>>>>>>> If it gets accepted, I could make more of these.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrzej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/19/2018 02:12 PM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
>>>>>>>> It would be also nice to have separate controls for:
>>>>>>>> 1. Tracks
>>>>>>>> 2. Drawing primitives (graphic lines, arcs, and circles)
>>>>>>>> 3. Zones
>>>>>>>> 4. Polygons
>>>>>>>> 5. Text (now there is control only for footprint text)
>>>>>>>> 6. Dimensions
>>>>>>>> 7. Plated holes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would make Render tab (almost) complete.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrzej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> W dniu 2018-02-18 o 21:00, Jon Evans pisze:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right now the behavior of the "Layer" and "Render" tabs of the
>>>>>>>>> layers
>>>>>>>>> widget are confusing to users, resulting in complaints on the
>>>>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>>>> and some bug reports:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1748181
>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1743890
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could take a crack at fixing this (before or after 5.0
>>>>>>>>> depending on
>>>>>>>>> what the complexity ends up being) but before I write any code I
>>>>>>>>> wanted to propose how I think it should work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the visibility of any object should be the AND of layer
>>>>>>>>> visibility and render visibility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To get there:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) In the Render tab, get rid of the distinction between
>>>>>>>>> front/back.
>>>>>>>>> For example "Pads Back" and "Pads Front" becomes just "Pads"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) Change the visibility code so that an object is visible if (a)
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> associated Render setting is turned on for the type of object, and
>>>>>>>>> (b) at least one of the layers the object is on is enabled in the
>>>>>>>>> Layers tab.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) (optionally) Rename "Render" to something more friendly like
>>>>>>>>> "Items" or "Item Types" to make it more clear to the user that
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> is where they can turn off the display of various types of
>>>>>>>>> items as
>>>>>>>>> opposed to various layerse
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this plan is OK, I will start working out the details of how to
>>>>>>>>> get there. Right now the Render tab is directly controlling the
>>>>>>>>> visibility of certain "GAL Layers" but unfortunately the set of
>>>>>>>>> objects that appears on one GAL layer is not always equal to
>>>>>>>>> the set
>>>>>>>>> of objects that the user would expect to turn on and off, as
>>>>>>>>> seen by
>>>>>>>>> the bug reports. So, there will have to be some additional logic
>>>>>>>>> created to manage these settings beyond just turning on and off
>>>>>>>>> layers in the GAL.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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