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[Jean-Samuel Reynaud <js.reynaud@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All,

Libraries packages on PPA follow now the same schema as future debian's
package for KiCad.

So packages are renamed as:
kicad-library => kicad-libraries
kicad-library-footprints => kicad-footprints
kicad-library-packages3d => kicad-packages3d
kicad-library-symbols => kicad-symbols
kicad-library-templates => kicad-templates

 Future update/downgrade from/to between ppa and Ubuntu official KiCad's
package should be easier in the future.
 Ubuntu official Kicad's packages are not yet on new shema (work is in
progress on Carsten side, big thanks to him) but will be ok on the a
near future.


Regards,
Le 17/02/2018 à 15:22, Nick Østergaard a écrit :
> Thank you very much, both of you.
> 
> Den 17. feb. 2018 8.44 AM skrev "Jean-Samuel Reynaud"
> <js.reynaud@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:js.reynaud@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>     Hi
> 
>     Package naming will change in ppa to follow exactly the same schema
>     as debian's packages. 
> 
>     I will process those change as soon as possible. 
> 
>     Regards.
> 
>     Le 16 févr. 2018 23:46, "Nick Østergaard" <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
> 
>         2018-01-15 11:55 GMT+01:00 Carsten Schoenert
>         <c.schoenert@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:c.schoenert@xxxxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>             Hi,
> 
>             adding some notes here for the planned Debian packaging.
>             Jean-Samuel emailed my some days ago already about his
>             planes and we
>             have tried to stay in contact about a consistent packaging
>             schema
>             between Ubuntu and Debian which makes absolutely sense in my
>             eyes.
> 
>             Am 15.01.2018 um 09:40 schrieb Jean-Samuel Reynaud:
>             ...
>             > *New package situation:*
>             >
>             > So I have reshaped packages:
>             >
>             > kicad-library
>             > kicad-library-footprints
>             > kicad-library-packages3d
>             > kicad-library-symbols
>             > kicad-library-templates
> 
>             I've agree on those new needed binary packages, which will also
>             introduce the depending new source packages.
> 
> 
>         So what did the final naming become?
> 
>         According to the PPA it looks like:
>         https://code.launchpad.net/~js-reynaud/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-kicad/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=artful
>         <https://code.launchpad.net/~js-reynaud/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-kicad/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=artful>
> 
>         kicad-library (not sure what this does)
>         kicad-library-all (date of this is older than the packages, but
>         I guess this is a meta package)
>         kicad-library-footprints
>         kicad-library-packages3d
>         kicad-library-symbols
>         kicad-library-templates
> 
>         While on the figure on your page I see:
>         https://wiki.debian.org/KiCad
>         kicad-libraries (meta package for footprint, symbols and templates)
>         kicad-footprint
>         kicad-packages3d
>         kicad-symbols
>         kicad-templates
>          
> 
> 
>             > kicad-library is a meta package. It had a dependency (recommend, not
>             > strong) to each others.
> 
>             In terms of Debian and Ubuntu there is only Recommends and
>             Suggests
>             available. The difference between both is simple that a
>             Suggests will
>             never be installed automatically, a Recommends will be
>             installed unless
>             the user is turning this globally off (default in on) or
>             while calling
>             'apt install' by the option '--no-install-recommends'.
>             There is no strong or soft recommending.
> 
>             I suggested to use 'kicad-libraries' as the package name and
>             make
>             'kicad-library' a transitional package.
> 
>             > The version of this package will be prefixed with a "1:" to put it on
>             > the front of older version of kicad-library.
> 
>             This is not needed in my eyes. The sense of a epoch version
>             is something
>             different [1]. As long as the new version number for
>             'kicad-libra[y|ies]' is greater than the previous one the
>             update will
>             work as wanted, the new version is overwriting the old package.
>             But I haven't looked at the existing PPA packages from
>             Jean-Samuel in
>             detail until now.
> 
>             > kicad-library-packages3d own all 3D. This package have a large size (~
>             > 330M, 4G on disk) . It will have a recommended dependency to
>             > kicad-library-footprint
>             >
>             > kicad-library-footprints own all footprints
>             > kicad-library-symbols same with symbols
>             > kicad-library-templates same with ... templates ;)
>             >
>             > All kicad-library-* packages have a conflict constraint to
>             > kicad-library << 1:0.1 and kicad-common (as before).
>             > There is also a recommended dependency to kicad-library >= 1:0.1.
>             >
>             > This last point will avoid cross installation between kicad-library
>             > version since those packages are be incompatible (shared files...).
> 
>             As written, not needed as long the new version is greater
>             than the old
>             one, and this is a hard requirement. If you use epoch you
>             allow some
>             smaller version explicitly.
> 
>             > *Migration*
>             >
>             > No specific action are required. Update will do his jobs automatically.
>             > Anyway you can now install only one package if you want limit disk
>             > space/download time...
>             >
>             > If you experience any errors, please let me know ! Main error that can
>             > be found is one file in two packages (file conflict)...
> 
>             Ubuntu has no piuparts testing? In Debian there exists
>             piuparts which is
>             testing several constellations of possible upgrading a package.
> 
>             I hope I can start in the next weeks to modify the existing
>             KiCad
>             package in Debian to adopt Jean-Samuel package suggestions
>             and uploading
>             the new packages to NEW.
>             My work on NGspice is no hard dependency foe KiCad but Want
>             to get this
>             out of the door before starting new things. If someone want
>             to jump on
>             to the packaging just ping me. Some experience with the
>             Debian packaging
>             would be appreciated!
>             I will also travel to FOSDEM, so if someone want to do some
>             face 2 face
>             talking also just ping me. ;)
> 
> 
>             [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#version
>             <https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#version>
>             [2] https://piuparts.debian.org/
> 
>             --
>             Regards
>             Carsten Schoenert
> 
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