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[Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Was it ever possible to run the fill algorithm (meaning, only fill in parts
of a polygon outline, based on some clearance to other items on the same
layer) on a non-copper zone?
I might be missing something, but from looking over the code (even back at
4.0 branch) I don't think this has ever been supported.
So, while this might be an interesting feature request, it's not a bug and
shouldn't hold up the RC.

Seth, yes I see that dialog too in old builds, but the outline appearance
doesn't do anything (because non-copper zones are always shown filled, not
with an outline)

Are we actually missing any features we used to have, or is this all a
matter of proper documentation about the new way to do things in v5?

-Jon

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Seth Hillbrand <seth.hillbrand@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> I have a number of zones on non-copper layers in older designs.  They used
> to have the attached dialog.
>
> But setting the width of a graphical polygon to 0 removes the size
> issue Andrzej mentioned.
>
> For filling vs. non-filling, I don't personally see the usefulness in
> having the fill algorithm run over a polygon that will always be filled.
> But maybe there's a use-case I'm missing?
>
> -S
>
> 2018-02-23 16:26 GMT-08:00 Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> I went back to an older version of master (back around September of last
>> year) and I can't make a zone on a non-copper layer that behaves like a
>> copper zone.  Even when using the zone tool, they behave like graphic
>> polygons.
>> Were you able to do this up until Orson's recent change?  If so, how do
>> you do it?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Andrzej Wolski <awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Polygons do work, but they are different kind of object than zones and I
>>> think they both should be there.
>>>
>>> I think zones suppose to flood, while polygons should be always solid.
>>>
>>> Polygons do not currently have "do not show filled".
>>>
>>> There are many designs which already have zones on non coppers layers,
>>> so Kicad will have to support them anyway, but users won't be able to place
>>> new ones?
>>>
>>> Also note that there is difference in how zone vs polygon outline is
>>> drawn. When you draw 10x10mm zone, resulting object will have the same
>>> dimensions, but polygon will be 10x10mm + outline width.
>>>
>>> Andrzej
>>>
>>>
>>> W dniu 2018-02-24 o 00:49, Seth Hillbrand pisze:
>>>
>>> The graphical polygon tool works for non-copper layers.
>>>
>>> Andrzej, does this tool not work?
>>>
>>> -S
>>>
>>> 2018-02-23 15:28 GMT-08:00 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>> Orson,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any reason not to allow zones to be drawn on non-copper layers?
>>>>  The changes you made in this commit would seem to indicate there was a
>>>> reason not to allow this.  I'm going to hold off on rc1 until we get
>>>> this resolved.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> On 02/23/2018 06:10 PM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > after this change:
>>>> > https://git.launchpad.net/kicad/commit/?id=fea71c9f8f02c59a0
>>>> 5de19293a8ce5a55432527b
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I can no logner draw zones on non copper layers.
>>>> > Was that intentional?
>>>> >
>>>> > Andrzej
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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