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[Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I thought the idea was to write a backend for GAL that could render onto a
wxDC for printing?  It seems wise to use the wxWidgets printing API rather
than bypassing it; so we just need to be able to render onto a DC (without
using the old XOR tricks from the legacy drawing code)

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On the other hand, if we don’t then we have to keep carrying around a
> boat-load of Legacy rendering code (because we use that for printing).
>
> > On 24 Feb 2018, at 20:16, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > There is no plan yet but it has been discussed.  The only downside is
> that we will have to write our own print handling on windows and I'm
> guessing macos.  That's one of the reasons no one has signed up yet because
> it will be a large undertaking.
> >
> > On 02/24/2018 02:02 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
> >> Yes I think that's the plan, just needs someone to sign up to write it
> :)
> >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018, 14:00 Andrzej Wolski <awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>    Cairo have PDF, SVG and Postscript support. I was once wondering if
> >>    GAL/Cairo could be used for printing.
> >>    Andrzej
> >>    W dniu 2018-02-24 o 19:24, Jon Evans pisze:
> >>>    Yeah, there (at least) three different dialogs that all present
> >>>    similar things (i.e. a list of layers to include, settings, etc):
> >>>
> >>>    Export->SVG
> >>>    Print
> >>>    Plot
> >>>
> >>>    The Print code for Export->SVG seems to just use the same SVG
> >>>    plotter, so maybe it's just mostly GUI cleanup that is needed.
> >>>
> >>>    The main Print code does need an overhaul to use something other
> >>>    than wxDC for graphics generation (and perhaps adding some more
> >>>    features to PDF export)
> >>>
> >>>    -Jon
> >>>
> >>>    On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>    <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>        Plot SVG and Export SVG are different.  The former goes
> >>>        through the Plot code while the later goes through the Print
> >>>        code.
> >>>
> >>>        Do we need both?  I haven’t a clue.
> >>>
> >>>        It would be nice to clean this stuff up, if there is in fact a
> >>>        clean way to present it.
> >>>
> >>>        Cheers,
> >>>        Jeff.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>        On 24 Feb 2018, at 14:54, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>        <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>        I agree with this! It has always tripped me up when I switch
> >>>>        back and forth between kicad and other EDA tools.
> >>>>
> >>>>        On Feb 24, 2018 9:31 AM, "Diego Herranz"
> >>>>        <diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>        <mailto:diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>            Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>            Now that so much work is happening on re-structuring
> >>>>            menus, I've remembered something I have always found
> >>>>            weird on pcbnew.
> >>>>
> >>>>            "Plot", from wihch you can obtain Gerbers is not inside
> >>>>            "Fabrication Outputs", but on its own.
> >>>>            I find it weird to have the drill option inside
> >>>>            "Fabrication Outputs" but not the Gerbers (they are
> >>>>            normally needed together and in fact, you can go to
> >>>>            "Drill" from "Plot").
> >>>>
> >>>>            If "Plot" was Gerber only, I would recommend moving it
> >>>>            inside "Fabrication Outputs" straight away but because it
> >>>>            also exports other formats, it's not so straightforward.
> >>>>
> >>>>            I think ideally we would have:
> >>>>
> >>>>            - Fabrication outputs
> >>>>              - Gerber...
> >>>>              - Drill
> >>>>              - ...
> >>>>            - Export
> >>>>              - STEP
> >>>>              - PDF...
> >>>>              - Postcript...
> >>>>              - DXF...
> >>>>              - ...
> >>>>
> >>>>            And I have just noticed SVG can be obtained from "Plot"
> >>>>            or the "Export" submenu. Is it the same?
> >>>>
> >>>>            What do you guys think? I'm not necessarily suggesting
> >>>>            looking into this before KiCad 5, just wanted to have
> >>>>            your view.
> >>>>
> >>>>            Thanks,
> >>>>            Diego
> >>>>
> >>>>
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