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Re: Fabrication Outputs and Plot

 

I'm open to any solution that improves the current situation. This solution seems reasonable as well. I also just noticed that wx 3.1.1 was just released and it looks like there have been a lot of fixes the various device contexts so some of the work may have already been done for us.

On 02/24/2018 03:31 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
I thought the idea was to write a backend for GAL that could render onto a wxDC for printing?  It seems wise to use the wxWidgets printing API rather than bypassing it; so we just need to be able to render onto a DC (without using the old XOR tricks from the legacy drawing code)

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    On the other hand, if we don’t then we have to keep carrying around
    a boat-load of Legacy rendering code (because we use that for printing).

     > On 24 Feb 2018, at 20:16, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
     >
     > There is no plan yet but it has been discussed.  The only
    downside is that we will have to write our own print handling on
    windows and I'm guessing macos.  That's one of the reasons no one
    has signed up yet because it will be a large undertaking.
     >
     > On 02/24/2018 02:02 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
     >> Yes I think that's the plan, just needs someone to sign up to
    write it :)
     >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018, 14:00 Andrzej Wolski
    <awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx>
    <mailto:awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx>>>
    wrote:
     >>    Cairo have PDF, SVG and Postscript support. I was once
    wondering if
     >>    GAL/Cairo could be used for printing.
     >>    Andrzej
     >>    W dniu 2018-02-24 o 19:24, Jon Evans pisze:
     >>>    Yeah, there (at least) three different dialogs that all present
     >>>    similar things (i.e. a list of layers to include, settings,
    etc):
     >>>
     >>>    Export->SVG
     >>>    Print
     >>>    Plot
     >>>
     >>>    The Print code for Export->SVG seems to just use the same SVG
     >>>    plotter, so maybe it's just mostly GUI cleanup that is needed.
     >>>
     >>>    The main Print code does need an overhaul to use something other
     >>>    than wxDC for graphics generation (and perhaps adding some more
     >>>    features to PDF export)
     >>>
     >>>    -Jon
     >>>
     >>>    On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>
     >>>    <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
     >>>
     >>>        Plot SVG and Export SVG are different.  The former goes
     >>>        through the Plot code while the later goes through the Print
     >>>        code.
     >>>
     >>>        Do we need both?  I haven’t a clue.
     >>>
     >>>        It would be nice to clean this stuff up, if there is in
    fact a
     >>>        clean way to present it.
     >>>
     >>>        Cheers,
     >>>        Jeff.
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>>        On 24 Feb 2018, at 14:54, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     >>>>        <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
    wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>>        I agree with this! It has always tripped me up when I
    switch
     >>>>        back and forth between kicad and other EDA tools.
     >>>>
     >>>>        On Feb 24, 2018 9:31 AM, "Diego Herranz"
     >>>>        <diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     >>>>        <mailto:diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>>            Hi,
     >>>>
     >>>>            Now that so much work is happening on re-structuring
     >>>>            menus, I've remembered something I have always found
     >>>>            weird on pcbnew.
     >>>>
     >>>>            "Plot", from wihch you can obtain Gerbers is not inside
     >>>>            "Fabrication Outputs", but on its own.
     >>>>            I find it weird to have the drill option inside
     >>>>            "Fabrication Outputs" but not the Gerbers (they are
     >>>>            normally needed together and in fact, you can go to
     >>>>            "Drill" from "Plot").
     >>>>
     >>>>            If "Plot" was Gerber only, I would recommend moving it
     >>>>            inside "Fabrication Outputs" straight away but
    because it
     >>>>            also exports other formats, it's not so
    straightforward.
     >>>>
     >>>>            I think ideally we would have:
     >>>>
     >>>>            - Fabrication outputs
     >>>>              - Gerber...
     >>>>              - Drill
     >>>>              - ...
     >>>>            - Export
     >>>>              - STEP
     >>>>              - PDF...
     >>>>              - Postcript...
     >>>>              - DXF...
     >>>>              - ...
     >>>>
     >>>>            And I have just noticed SVG can be obtained from "Plot"
     >>>>            or the "Export" submenu. Is it the same?
     >>>>
     >>>>            What do you guys think? I'm not necessarily suggesting
     >>>>            looking into this before KiCad 5, just wanted to have
     >>>>            your view.
     >>>>
     >>>>            Thanks,
     >>>>            Diego
     >>>>
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