On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:45, Michael McCormack <mike@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I did try that, but given the oddness of the behavior, I did
not resave the board in case someone wanted to check it out
and saving would somehow mess things up. Here is the screen
shot with all layers and everything enable, still empty at
the bottom.
<image.png>
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, jp charras
<jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Le 17/04/2018 � 03:42, Steven A. Falco a �crit :
> I tried opening the board under Fedora Linux with Kicad 4.0.7 using pcbnew in stand-alone mode, and the hole is visible, as shown in the attached screen-shot.
>
> Steve
>
> On 04/16/2018 09:30 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>> I tested on Ubuntu and Windows 10 using 5.0rc2 and don't see the problem, so I guess it has been fixed somewhere along the way.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Michael McCormack <mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>
>> OK, here is the boar file, if you need anything else, please let me know.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like a different bug (2.9mm drill is smaller than 3.2mm pad).
>>
>> I can�t reproduce it on 5.0rc2 Mac. Not sure if that�s because it�s fixed in 5.0, or it only shows up on Windows, or it�s something specific to Michael�s setup.
>>
>>
>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 22:44, Michael McCormack <mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
I tried the board both under Pcbnew 4.07 last stable and
the current 5.0rc2 and I do not have any
problem with these NPTH pads (I can edit the pad and move
the footprint).
Be aware you have set many layers and NPTH to "no show".
Perhaps you should set all items and layers to "show"
>>>
>>> This is the module snipped from the board file:
>>>
>>> (module Ori:MountingHole_3.2mm_M3_ISO14580
(layer F.Cu) (tedit 59C8FBCE) (tstamp 5AC4E91C)
>>> (at 138.25 141.050001)
>>> (descr "Mounting Hole 3.2mm, no annular,
M3, ISO14580")
>>> (tags "mounting hole 3.2mm no annular m3
iso14580")
>>> (path /583B5C0A)
>>> (fp_text reference M1 (at 0 -3.75) (layer
F.SilkS) hide
>>> (effects (font (size 1 1) (thickness
0.15)))
>>> )
>>> (fp_text value "M3_Mounting Hole" (at 0
3.75) (layer F.Fab)
>>> (effects (font (size 1 1) (thickness
0.15)))
>>> )
>>> (fp_circle (center 0 0) (end 2.75 0)
(layer Cmts.User) (width 0.15))
>>> (fp_circle (center 0 0) (end 3 0) (layer
F.CrtYd) (width 0.05))
>>> (pad "" np_thru_hole circle (at 0 0)
(size 3.2 3.2) (drill 2.9) (layers *.Cu *.Mask)
>>> (clearance 2))
>>> )
>>>
>>> I am using 4.0.7 under Windows 10, if you
decode this is the known bug I sincerely apologize for
having wasted your time. I did not see a bug that I
thought was the same thing. If not, I will mail it to
any and all of you to look at. I won't obfuscate, I'd be
afraid to disturb the problem. I see no real problem
sharing the board with Kicad developers but can also
understand why my employer is not keen to have our boards
posted on the internet.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Jon Evans
<jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That sounds like a bug (if there is
invalid data like that, we should deal with it in a
better way)
>>> It sounds like it might be easy to make a
trivial test case to attach to a bug report without using
your employer's board as-is
>>> (maybe by removing everything manually
from the kicad_pcb file except for the hole in question
and the board outline?)
>>>
>>> I can't take a look at this right this
moment, but I could in the next few days if no one else
jumps on it first.
>>>
>>> -Jon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Michael
McCormack <mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This might not be quite the right
place to post this, but, I've found something that is a
slightly problematic with Kicad and board file. I have a
PCB that has a NPH hole located off the board, I can't
see it or select it inside PCBNew, however, it gets a
hole in the gerbers and I can find it in the kicad_pcb
file if I open the file with a text editor.
>>>
>>> As it is my employer's board, I can't
see them being OK with me creating a bug report and
posting the board file for just anyone to see; but, as I
have used Kicad myself probably a decade I'd send it to
someone to evaluate if it would help the project.
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested?
>>>
--
Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
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