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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

I took a second look at this and you are correct.  The library table
nickname character filter was changed to include the library item
(symbol or footprint) name characters which is incorrect.  The valid
library nickname characters are different from the valid library item
name characters.  I will fix this as soon as I get a chance.

On 6/13/2018 4:59 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> Those are good reasons for not allowing slashes in the footprint names
> but I don’t see any reason for not allowing them in /library/ nick
> names. As far as I can tell any character except |:| could be allowed
> before the |:|. It’s a pretty long standing “bug” so we could view it as
> standard. It will break "compatibility" with fp-lib-tables that use the
> slash character and users were never warned about using it.
> 
> If it /will/ be allowed in v6 why make people change it when going from
> v4 to v5?
> 
> ​
> 
> On 13 June 2018 at 18:35, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     AFAIK you cannot use slashes ('/') or colons (':') in either a library
>     (footprint or symbol) table nickname or a footprint or symbol name.  If
>     you could use a slash in a footprint library nickname in the past, this
>     was a bug and the fact that it worked was a fluke.  The reason is that
>     the library ID format is NICKNAME:FP_OR_SYM_NAME/REV.  The other issue
>     is that footprint names are actually the filename sans extension.  Using
>     a slash in a footprint name would render it unusable.  I am going to fix
>     this as part of the new schematic and symbol library file format v6
>     work.  The reason this was not done for v5 the fix will require
>     schematic, board, and footprint file format changes which I didn't not
>     want to do for v5 as we were already late into the development cycle.
> 
>     On 6/13/2018 2:19 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
>     > Sorry to bring this up again but it just strikes me as a bit odd. Can we
>     > not allow slash characters in the fp-lib-table as before and not break
>     > backwards compatibility? It seems to read fp-lib-tables with slashes
>     > fine but current KiCad nightly won't let me edit it. I am up for making
>     > a patch if there's a chance it could make it into v5.
>     > 
>     > 
>     > On 10 May 2018 at 12:07, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     > 
>     >     On 5/8/2018 6:27 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
>     >     > I see, thanks for the info Wayne. So enforcing this for names in
>     >     > _footprint_ lib-tables is simply done for code sharing?
>     >     > 
>     >     > If I understand you correctly short-lived means for the lifetime of v5?
>     > 
>     >     This is correct.  The plan is to fix this after the new schematic file
>     >     formats are implemented so it should happen some time during v6
>     >     development.
>     > 
>     >     > 
>     >     > On 8 May 2018 at 22:10, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     This was done because the schematic file format parser
>     would break
>     >     >     with the forward slash character.  I hope to fix this
>     early in the
>     >     >     v6 development but it's a pain we are going to have to
>     live with
>     >     >     until the new schematic file format is complete.  I wish
>     I had the
>     >     >     time to do it all at once but it's just wasn't in the
>     cards. 
>     >     I have
>     >     >     to implement this one piece at a time.  There was an
>     >     announcement on
>     >     >     this mailing list about it.  I apologize for the
>     inconvenience. 
>     >     >     Hopefully it will be short lived.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Cheers,
>     >     >
>     >     >     Wayne
>     >     >
>     >     >     On 05/08/2018 04:40 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >         Hi,
>     >     >
>     >     >         looks like a forward slash character in nick names
>     in the
>     >     >         fp-lib-table is not supported any more (it can be
>     read but it
>     >     >         cannot be saved).
>     >     >
>     >     >         This breaks compatibility with older fp-lib-tables
>     somewhat. I
>     >     >         have been using slashes in names to namespace
>     fp-lib-tables
>     >     >         created for my footprint collection
>     >     >         <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
>     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
>     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
>     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>
>     >     >         <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
>     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
>     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
>     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>>>.
>     >     >
>     >     >         Is there a good reason for not allowing slashes in
>     names?
>     >     >
>     >     >         Cheers,
>     >     >
>     >     >         Kaspar
>     >     >
>     >     >         ​
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