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[Kaspar Emanuel <kaspar.emanuel@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Wayne, this will save me (and anyone else using
monostable/kicad_footprints
<https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints#readme>) quite a bit of
time!
​

On 19 June 2018 at 19:13, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I took a second look at this and you are correct.  The library table
> nickname character filter was changed to include the library item
> (symbol or footprint) name characters which is incorrect.  The valid
> library nickname characters are different from the valid library item
> name characters.  I will fix this as soon as I get a chance.
>
> On 6/13/2018 4:59 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> > Those are good reasons for not allowing slashes in the footprint names
> > but I don’t see any reason for not allowing them in /library/ nick
> > names. As far as I can tell any character except |:| could be allowed
> > before the |:|. It’s a pretty long standing “bug” so we could view it as
> > standard. It will break "compatibility" with fp-lib-tables that use the
> > slash character and users were never warned about using it.
> >
> > If it /will/ be allowed in v6 why make people change it when going from
> > v4 to v5?
> >
> > ​
> >
> > On 13 June 2018 at 18:35, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     AFAIK you cannot use slashes ('/') or colons (':') in either a
> library
> >     (footprint or symbol) table nickname or a footprint or symbol name.
> If
> >     you could use a slash in a footprint library nickname in the past,
> this
> >     was a bug and the fact that it worked was a fluke.  The reason is
> that
> >     the library ID format is NICKNAME:FP_OR_SYM_NAME/REV.  The other
> issue
> >     is that footprint names are actually the filename sans extension.
> Using
> >     a slash in a footprint name would render it unusable.  I am going to
> fix
> >     this as part of the new schematic and symbol library file format v6
> >     work.  The reason this was not done for v5 the fix will require
> >     schematic, board, and footprint file format changes which I didn't
> not
> >     want to do for v5 as we were already late into the development cycle.
> >
> >     On 6/13/2018 2:19 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     > Sorry to bring this up again but it just strikes me as a bit odd.
> Can we
> >     > not allow slash characters in the fp-lib-table as before and not
> break
> >     > backwards compatibility? It seems to read fp-lib-tables with
> slashes
> >     > fine but current KiCad nightly won't let me edit it. I am up for
> making
> >     > a patch if there's a chance it could make it into v5.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On 10 May 2018 at 12:07, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     On 5/8/2018 6:27 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     >     > I see, thanks for the info Wayne. So enforcing this for
> names in
> >     >     > _footprint_ lib-tables is simply done for code sharing?
> >     >     >
> >     >     > If I understand you correctly short-lived means for the
> lifetime of v5?
> >     >
> >     >     This is correct.  The plan is to fix this after the new
> schematic file
> >     >     formats are implemented so it should happen some time during v6
> >     >     development.
> >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On 8 May 2018 at 22:10, Wayne Stambaugh <
> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     This was done because the schematic file format parser
> >     would break
> >     >     >     with the forward slash character.  I hope to fix this
> >     early in the
> >     >     >     v6 development but it's a pain we are going to have to
> >     live with
> >     >     >     until the new schematic file format is complete.  I wish
> >     I had the
> >     >     >     time to do it all at once but it's just wasn't in the
> >     cards.
> >     >     I have
> >     >     >     to implement this one piece at a time.  There was an
> >     >     announcement on
> >     >     >     this mailing list about it.  I apologize for the
> >     inconvenience.
> >     >     >     Hopefully it will be short lived.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Cheers,
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Wayne
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     On 05/08/2018 04:40 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         Hi,
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         looks like a forward slash character in nick names
> >     in the
> >     >     >         fp-lib-table is not supported any more (it can be
> >     read but it
> >     >     >         cannot be saved).
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         This breaks compatibility with older fp-lib-tables
> >     somewhat. I
> >     >     >         have been using slashes in names to namespace
> >     fp-lib-tables
> >     >     >         created for my footprint collection
> >     >     >         <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
> >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>
> >     >     >         <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
> >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>>>.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         Is there a good reason for not allowing slashes in
> >     names?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         Cheers,
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         Kaspar
> >     >     >
> >     >     >         ​
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