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Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?

To: Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
From: Kaspar Emanuel <kaspar.emanuel@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 01:07:42 +0000
Cc: Kicad Developers <kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Works great for me on latest nightly. Thanks again.

On 20 June 2018 at 18:52, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Kasper,
>
> I just pushed the fix for this.  Please test it and let me know if you
> find any issues.  Keep in mind that this only effects the library
> nicknames.  The '/' character will still be illegal for symbol and
> footprint names.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 6/19/2018 4:04 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> > Thanks Wayne, this will save me (and anyone else using
> > monostable/kicad_footprints
> > <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints#readme>) quite a bit of
> > time!
> >
> > 
> >
> > On 19 June 2018 at 19:13, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     I took a second look at this and you are correct.  The library table
> >     nickname character filter was changed to include the library item
> >     (symbol or footprint) name characters which is incorrect.  The valid
> >     library nickname characters are different from the valid library item
> >     name characters.  I will fix this as soon as I get a chance.
> >
> >     On 6/13/2018 4:59 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     > Those are good reasons for not allowing slashes in the footprint
> names
> >     > but I don’t see any reason for not allowing them in /library/ nick
> >     > names. As far as I can tell any character except |:| could be
> allowed
> >     > before the |:|. It’s a pretty long standing “bug” so we could view
> it as
> >     > standard. It will break "compatibility" with fp-lib-tables that
> use the
> >     > slash character and users were never warned about using it.
> >     >
> >     > If it /will/ be allowed in v6 why make people change it when going
> >     from
> >     > v4 to v5?
> >     >
> >     > 
> >     >
> >     > On 13 June 2018 at 18:35, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     AFAIK you cannot use slashes ('/') or colons (':') in either a
> library
> >     >     (footprint or symbol) table nickname or a footprint or symbol
> name.  If
> >     >     you could use a slash in a footprint library nickname in the
> past, this
> >     >     was a bug and the fact that it worked was a fluke.  The reason
> is that
> >     >     the library ID format is NICKNAME:FP_OR_SYM_NAME/REV.  The
> other issue
> >     >     is that footprint names are actually the filename sans
> extension.  Using
> >     >     a slash in a footprint name would render it unusable.  I am
> going to fix
> >     >     this as part of the new schematic and symbol library file
> format v6
> >     >     work.  The reason this was not done for v5 the fix will require
> >     >     schematic, board, and footprint file format changes which I
> didn't not
> >     >     want to do for v5 as we were already late into the development
> cycle.
> >     >
> >     >     On 6/13/2018 2:19 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     >     > Sorry to bring this up again but it just strikes me as a bit
> odd. Can we
> >     >     > not allow slash characters in the fp-lib-table as before and
> not break
> >     >     > backwards compatibility? It seems to read fp-lib-tables with
> slashes
> >     >     > fine but current KiCad nightly won't let me edit it. I am up
> for making
> >     >     > a patch if there's a chance it could make it into v5.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On 10 May 2018 at 12:07, Wayne Stambaugh <
> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     On 5/8/2018 6:27 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     >     >     > I see, thanks for the info Wayne. So enforcing this
> >     for names in
> >     >     >     > _footprint_ lib-tables is simply done for code sharing?
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > If I understand you correctly short-lived means for
> >     the lifetime of v5?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     This is correct.  The plan is to fix this after the new
> >     schematic file
> >     >     >     formats are implemented so it should happen some time
> >     during v6
> >     >     >     development.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > On 8 May 2018 at 22:10, Wayne Stambaugh
> >     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> >     >     >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> wrote:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     This was done because the schematic file format
> parser
> >     >     would break
> >     >     >     >     with the forward slash character.  I hope to fix
> this
> >     >     early in the
> >     >     >     >     v6 development but it's a pain we are going to
> have to
> >     >     live with
> >     >     >     >     until the new schematic file format is complete.
> >     I wish
> >     >     I had the
> >     >     >     >     time to do it all at once but it's just wasn't in
> the
> >     >     cards.
> >     >     >     I have
> >     >     >     >     to implement this one piece at a time.  There was
> an
> >     >     >     announcement on
> >     >     >     >     this mailing list about it.  I apologize for the
> >     >     inconvenience.
> >     >     >     >     Hopefully it will be short lived.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     Cheers,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     Wayne
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     On 05/08/2018 04:40 PM, Kaspar Emanuel wrote:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >         Hi,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >         looks like a forward slash character in nick
> names
> >     >     in the
> >     >     >     >         fp-lib-table is not supported any more (it can
> be
> >     >     read but it
> >     >     >     >         cannot be saved).
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >         This breaks compatibility with older
> fp-lib-tables
> >     >     somewhat. I
> >     >     >     >         have been using slashes in names to namespace
> >     >     fp-lib-tables
> >     >     >     >         created for my footprint collection
> >     >     >     >
> >      <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
> >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>
> >     >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
> >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>>
> >     >     >     >
> >      <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
> >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>
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> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>
> >     >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints
> >     <https://github.com/monostable/kicad_footprints>>>>>.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >         Is there a good reason for not allowing
> slashes in
> >     >     names?
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >         Cheers,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >         Kaspar
> >     >     >     >
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Follow ups

Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-06-22
References

Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Kaspar Emanuel, 2018-05-08
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-05-08
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Kaspar Emanuel, 2018-05-08
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-05-10
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Kaspar Emanuel, 2018-06-13
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-06-13
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Kaspar Emanuel, 2018-06-13
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-06-19
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Kaspar Emanuel, 2018-06-19
Re: Slash character in fp-lib-table nick names?
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-06-20