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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What options do we have?  Anything beyond "postpone V5" or "wait for the
next release"?

Could we rebrand the V5 release as a "technical preview" or something that
is suitable for experts (and new users, actually) and make V5.1 V5?

Adam

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 10:10 PM Mark Roszko <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> Guess going to suggest it should be a priority to version the config
> into folders.
>
> This is a user made chart on how to install kicad 5 which honestly is
> silly it has to even exist lol
>
> https://kicad-info.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/d/d6143659e9237fc358588bed761ef3e557454cde.png
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:56 PM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > I agree with you in principal but this would require some major changes
> > to KiCad internally to handle the configuration data the "windows" way.
> > I really do not want to push the stable 5 release back any further than
> > it already has been.  I'm open to trying to accomplish this as part of
> > the 5.1 release if we can implement it soon enough to get some testing
> > on it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > On 7/8/2018 12:19 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> > > Let's postpone this discussion maybe until the 10th when Wayne is back
> > > at it.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 10:33 PM Mark Roszko <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx
> > > <mailto:mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hey guys,
> > >
> > >     So with 5.0 approaching theres something of an annoying problem on
> > >     windows (that many are complaining about). The install location!
> > >     Currently, even though you can install kicad into separate folders
> if
> > >     you wanted to, kicad still tries to write to the same appdata
> folder!
> > >
> > >     Why would you want both the new and old? Because if you want to
> tweak
> > >     a old design, you don't want to risk opening it in newer versions
> and
> > >     having unforseen bugs. New designs sure, you really want to use the
> > >     latest and greatest, but the old is a risk not worth taking,
> > >     especially in the commercial field ;)
> > >
> > >     Also there is a settings conflicts between 4.0 and 5.0 sharing
> appdata.
> > >
> > >     I've seen some kicad forum "workarounds" where they use launcher
> > >     scripts that set KICAD_CONFIG_HOME each time. While it works, its
> > >     completely against the windows way :3
> > >
> > >
> > >     What I propose, is we patch KiCad a little to:
> > >
> > >     1. Write to appdata in a versioned manner (just minor and maybe
> > >     minor version)
> > >     C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\kicad 4.0\
> > >     C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\kicad 5.0\
> > >     C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\kicad 6.0\
> > >
> > >     2. Potentially prompt the user on first-start to copy settings.
> > >     (Maybe? Might be too much work for the final 5.0)
> > >
> > >     Then we patch the installer to follow the convention of:
> > >     C:\Program Files\KiCad 4.0\
> > >     C:\Program Files\KiCad 5.0\
> > >     C:\Program Files\KiCad 6.0\
> > >
> > >     This would do what every other CAD and IDE does on Windows
> > >     (versioned installs).
> > >
> > >     But what if people want to install in crazier ways ?!
> > >     Well then that should beyond the scope of the "standard" installs
> and
> > >     they are on their own. (Just like other tools)
> > >
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