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[Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

If I read between the lines, it seems like the more important thing is to
be able to tell what grid selection is active, not necessarily to change it
through a dropdown (the dropdown is just what is already implemented).

There are other ways of doing this that take up less real-estate.  For
example, Altium puts it in tiny text in the status bar, and you can get
immediate feedback when you toggle through grid settings using hotkeys.

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We already make some use of our status bar (mostly for showing coordinates)
but I think we could generally use it much better, since it is a whole
window-width of "free" real estate for showing information that people
might want to know such as the grid setting.

On the other hand, I don't think there is any need at all for the user to
see a dropdown of zoom choices.  I would just as soon remove that from
PcbNew as I would find a way to add it to Eeschema (and this includes from
the context menu)

-Jon

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:15 AM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> I'm on the fence on this one.  I rarely make grid changes in Eeschema
> and I never use the zoom drop down in any of the kicad main windows so I
> would say don't use valuable screen real estate by adding another
> horizontal toolbar.  If some users absolutely have to have this, I'm
> fine with implementing it but it would be nice to be able to hide the
> extra toolbar for those of us who will never use it.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/31/2018 5:48 AM, Jeff Young wrote:
> > Ping
> >
> >> On 12 Jul 2018, at 02:46, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to have the link handy:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1689024
> >>
> >>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 15:36, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> GerbView was easy because it already has an auxiliary horizontal
> toolbar.
> >>>
> >>> However, Eeschema does not, meaning that if we added one we’d be
> giving up significant screen real-estate.
> >>>
> >>> Another option would be to put it in the main horizontal toolbar, but
> then we’d have to drop some stuff that is currently in it.  Candidates
> might include:
> >>> - page settings
> >>> - paste (we manage to get by without it in PcbNew)
> >>> - redraw (on the few screen glitches I’ve seen this button hasn’t
> helped anyway)
> >>> - footprint editor (not in current menus; should be added to Tools
> whether we remove the tool icon or not)
> >>> - BOM (not in the current menus; should be added to File > Export
> whether we remove the tool icon or not)
> >>> - update PCB
> >>> - back-annotate (needs to be added to Tools menu either way)
> >>>
> >>> So,
> >>>
> >>> a) leave Eeschema without grid/zoom dropdowns
> >>> b) trim toolbar icons and add dropdowns to main toolbar
> >>> c) add an auxiliary toolbar
> >>> d) something I haven’t thought of
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Jeff.
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