It looks like globally, about 15%. I do not have any insight into how
our users different from the global average.
However, I did not hear a single complaint when we moved the bar from
10.9 to 10.11, following the rules of "current, plus the two previous
releases" that Apple appears to use.
There are three main reasons why I ask:
1) 10.14 was released in the middle of the 5 cycle.
2) there is always more work to be done and not having to dig into
this means more time for the other things, like getting Python 3
working in KiCad on macOS... But I also don't want to ruin a bunch of
user's days either.
3) Now that it is easy for Mac devs to build and generate packages,
there's more incentive to keep the build process simple and sane. The
macOS 4.x releases, I'm not joking, were probably only buildable on
one computer on this planet, due to all the weird hand-crafted
dependencies. I am not saying that looking into or fixing this issue
will immediately cause the Mac builds to be unreproducible and full of
cruft, but it could end up that way and it's important to consider.
Mainly, I want someone else to make this hard choice for me :p
It might be an OK time to switch nightlies over, and see what sort of
pushback we get? I'm not sure.
Adam
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 8:03 AM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:
Hey Adam,
Do you have any idea how much of an impact that this will have on
our
macos user base? If it's minimal, than I would say go ahead any
move
builds to 10.12. If it's something like half of the users, then
that is
problematic. I wouldn't want to have that big of hit to our user
base.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this. I'm not a mac user so I
don't
have a good feel as to whether or not this is going to be an issue.
Cheers,
Wayne
On 10/31/2018 4:40 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
Last night our automated builds that build on 10.11 both failed
because
the latest version of our dependencies no longer builds on 10.11.
How much time should we put into this, rather than move the builds
to
10.12 and leave the 10.11 users where they're at?
Apple does not announce end of life, but if they follow what
they've
done in the past, there will be no more security updates for 10.11
now
that 10.14 is released.
Adam
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