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[Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Running in a separate thread is one avenue I'm exploring.

Right now in my testing, release builds are very fast (usually well below
100ms)

JP raised some concerns because in his testing (using debug builds) it was
unacceptably slow.
I have tested on his designs with my computer, and rebuilds happen in
~250ms in debug build (he reported much slower)
So, I'm also going to find some more testing machines with different
platforms to check what the worst case can be.

-Jon

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jon,
>
> I would think 100-150mS in release builds would be sufficient.
> Obviously faster would be better because any perceptible delay is going
> to annoy users.  The problem with debug builds is they can vary
> significantly depending on the platform and the amount of debugging
> print output.  I'm assuming you are performing a full netlist rebuild
> after adding connectable objects so it may be better to rebuild the
> netlist during idle periods or run the netlist builder in a separate
> thread.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 4/1/2019 8:34 AM, Jon Evans wrote:
> > Speaking of that, if anyone wants to be adventurous, you can test
> > real-time by defining CONNECTIVITY_REAL_TIME and CONNECTIVITY_PROFILE.
> > In my testing, it is so fast as to be seamless on most machines with
> > most designs.
> > There are a few edge cases where the regeneration can take longer,
> > especially on debug builds.
> >
> > I'm interested in collecting profile data (using perf or some other
> > similar tool) from machines where this feature is annoyingly slow.
> > My goal would be to enable it when the performance penalty is no more
> > than ~100-150ms worst case in debug mode for real-time operations.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 7:37 AM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     No problem.  I wanted to get this merged so we can get some
> additional
> >     testing.  Hopefully you will be able to resolve the performance
> issues
> >     so we can have real time netlist generation and some of the nifty
> >     features that this will allow.
> >
> >     On 3/31/2019 11:19 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
> >     > Thanks Wayne! Everything looks good to me.
> >     >
> >     > Glad to finally have this merged so that I can start building other
> >     > improvements on top of it.
> >     >
> >     > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:42 PM Wayne Stambaugh
> >     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Jon,
> >     >
> >     >     I forgot to mention.  Please take a look and make sure I
> >     didn't muck
> >     >     anything up when you get a chance.
> >     >
> >     >     Wayne
> >     >
> >     >     On 3/31/19 9:38 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> >     >     > Jon,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I merged your patch set into the master branch.  Thank you
> >     for all of
> >     >     > your efforts.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Cheers,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Wayne
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On 3/31/19 7:50 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
> >     >     >> Yes I just squashed the parts that dont compile on their
> own.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 19:48 Wayne Stambaugh
> >     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     >> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>     Jon,
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>     I thought we decided to squash your patch set or did
> >     you just
> >     >     squash
> >     >     >>     part of the patch set?  I see 17 separate patches the
> >     archive
> >     >     you
> >     >     >> sent.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>     Wayne
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>     On 3/31/19 7:39 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
> >     >     >>      > Attached!
> >     >     >>      >
> >     >     >>      > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:28 PM Wayne Stambaugh
> >     >     >>     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> >     >     >>      > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> >     >     >> wrote:
> >     >     >>      >
> >     >     >>      >     Jon,
> >     >     >>      >
> >     >     >>      >     Would you please post the squashed patch to the
> >     >     mailing list
> >     >     >>     so I can
> >     >     >>      >     get it merged?
> >     >     >>      >
> >     >     >>      >     Thanks,
> >     >     >>      >
> >     >     >>      >     Wayne
> >     >     >>      >
> >     >     >>      >     On 3/31/19 3:07 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      > I went through and squashed the offending
> >     commits and
> >     >     >>     updated the
> >     >     >>      >     PRs.
> >     >     >>      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      > -Jon
> >     >     >>      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:22 PM Wayne
> Stambaugh
> >     >     >>      >     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> >     >     >>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
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> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> >     >     >>      >      > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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> >     >     >>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
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> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>
> wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      >     If that's the case then it may make the
> most
> >     >     sense to
> >     >     >>     squash
> >     >     >>      >     everything
> >     >     >>      >      >     into a single commit.
> >     >     >>      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      >     On 3/31/19 2:17 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      >      > That one was very late and would be
> >     easy to
> >     >     squash.
> >     >     >>      >     However, some
> >     >     >>      >      >     of the
> >     >     >>      >      >      > very early commits in the branch were
> >     split
> >     >     up for
> >     >     >>     review
> >     >     >>      >      >     purposes and
> >     >     >>      >      >      > not intended to be built on their own.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      >      > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 14:16 Wayne
> >     Stambaugh
> >     >     >>      >     <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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> >     >     >>      >      >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
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> >     >     >>      >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
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> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
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> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
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> >     >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>
> wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     When was the code that did not
> >     build on msvc
> >     >     >>      >     introduced?  If
> >     >     >>      >      >     was early
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     then it might make sense to squash
> >     >     everything.
> >     >     >>      >     Otherwise, it
> >     >     >>      >      >     may be
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     worthwhile squashing from the
> commit
> >     >     where the
> >     >     >>     build
> >     >     >>      >     error was
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     introduced to and including the
> >     commit where
> >     >     >>     the build
> >     >     >>      >     error
> >     >     >>      >      >     was fixed.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >      I don't have a preference one way
> >     or the
> >     >     >>     other.  I'm
> >     >     >>      >     open to
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     suggestion.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     On 3/31/19 11:14 AM, Jon Evans
> wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     > Seth, I split up the initial
> rebased
> >     >     branch
> >     >     >>     to make
> >     >     >>      >     review
> >     >     >>      >      >     a bit
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     > easier.  I could squash
> everything
> >     >     into one
> >     >     >> huge
> >     >     >>      >     commit if
> >     >     >>      >      >     you'd
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     prefer.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:56 AM
> Seth
> >     >     Hillbrand
> >     >     >>      >      >     <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >     >     >>     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
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> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
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> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
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> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
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> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     Am 2019-03-30 17:33, schrieb
> >     Simon
> >     >     >> Richter:
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     > Hi Wayne,
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     > On 30.03.19 21:30, Wayne
> >     Stambaugh
> >     >     >> wrote:
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     >> Is this the last of it?
> >     If so,
> >     >     I will
> >     >     >>     attempt to
> >     >     >>      >      >     get this
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     merged
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     >> tomorrow.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     > Compiles fine on msys2 and
> >     msvc.
> >     >     Not all
> >     >     >>      >     intermediate
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     commits compile,
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     > but I'm not sure anyone
> does
> >     >     git-bisect
> >     >     >>     anyway.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     I use git bisect frequently.
> >     >     Please do
> >     >     >>     not push
> >     >     >>      >      >     commits that
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     do not
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     compile.  This has been done
> >     >     previously
> >     >     >>     and it added
> >     >     >>      >      >     hours to
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     fixing a
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     single bug in 5.0.1.
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >     -S
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >
> >     >     >>      >      >      >     >
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