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Re: HotKey user model


On this general topic, is there a technical reason that one cannot assign a
shortcut key for "select whole net"?

*Drew Van Zandt*

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:13 PM jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Le 26/04/2019 à 19:21, Jeff Young a écrit :
> > I’ve been talking to Wayne about the ‘W’ and ‘X’ hotkeys.  It appears
> the design goal is to have these be immediate actions (that is, they start
> a wire or a track, rather than just selecting the wire or track tool).
> >
> > Presumably this would then also apply to ‘A’, ‘P’, ‘L’, ‘H’, ‘J’, ‘Q’,
> etc.  (None of these perform an immediate action today, right?)
> In short: Yes. This is how the hotkeys worked, previously.
> >
> > Do we want there to be some related way to select the tools?  That is,
> if ‘Q’ places a no-connect then shift-Q would select the no-connect tool?
> If yes, would these be separately editable, or would they simply follow
> whatever the user changed the main hotkeys to?
> >
> > Or is there some other facility that’s already supposed to work for
> tools?
> Why do you want to change the previous behavior? Is it not good?
> The reason of the behavior ('W' starts a wire and 'shift W' selects the
> tool) is the fact we cannot (if we use the hotkey as accelerator) know
> if a menu was clicked (in this case the mouse position is irrelevant) or
> if a hotkey was pressed (in this case the mouse position can be used and
> we start a wire immediately).
> Therefore we cannot use the same key as hotkey and accelerator key.
> It is extremely hard to fix this issue because the workaround to fix it
> are only workaround (and therefore can stop working after wxWidgets
> changes) and each platform has its own workaround.
> For instance, if the 'W' key is used both as accelerator key and hotkey,
> the key event is not generated on Windows (only the menu event), but is
> generated on wxGTK.
> I don't know what happens on OSX.
> Hotkey behavior versus accelerator key behavior is always strange.
> And this is not only when using wxWidgets:
> I found issues in many other applications (Using a French keyboard
> instead of a US keyboard often shows these strange behaviors)
> Trying to fix this issue is a mined field.
> Wayne and me spent a lot of time about that without success.
> --
> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
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