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[Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It's coming, Reece!
(obvious disclaimer: this is a mockup and doesn't represent final UI, etc
etc)
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 2:03 PM Reece Pollack <reece@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> For myself, I see no value to having the Ratsnest on/off in the View menu
> or in Preferences. Having it in the left toolbar as well as the Layers
> widget is duplicative but convenient.
>
> What would seriously reduce my use of the Ratsnest show/hide function is
> the ability to limit what nets appear in the ratsnest. I'd guess about
> 1/4th to 1/3rd of the ratsnest in my designs is GND. These eventually get
> connected to internal planes through vias, and seeing these airwires all
> over the place is just visual noise. Other big offenders are the various
> power nets (+3V3, +1V2, etc.) which I'd often prefer to hide. Eagle
> supports showing/hiding nets by name via the command line, and KiCad needs
> a similar capability. I seem to recall this being on the roadmap though I
> could be mistaken.
>
> Thinking it through a bit more, it might be more valuable to allow
> hiding/showing by net class rather than by name. This would make it easier
> to navigate in a GUI as there would be fewer net classes than nets, and
> this would group similar nets together.
>
> -Reece
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Jeff Young" <jeff@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To: *"Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc: *"KiCad Developers" <kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 13, 2019 10:26:38 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Kicad-developers] Ratsnest options
>
> So I’ll be the contrary one.
>
> First, I do agree with getting the number of access points down.
>
> However, I find myself turning the ratsnest on and off a lot.  And the
> toolbar is /much/ easier than the layers palette for that.
>
> As far as Preferences, I agree that it’s the right place for
> curved/straight (well, actually I’d be inclined to just offer curved, but I
> already lost that fight).  But why have shown/not shown in preferences?
> And for that matter units and coordinates.  These aren’t really
> set-and-forget types of things, and the options toolbar is both easier to
> access and more visible for inspection.
>
> So how about removing in/mm and polar/cartesian from Preferences (and
> leaving them and ratsnest on/off in the options toolbar), rather than
> moving ratsnest on/off to Preferences?
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
> On 13 Jun 2019, at 14:47, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 6/13/19 9:35 AM, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
>
> On 2019-06-12 22:50, Jon Evans wrote:
>
> I like that set of options. It fits in to my plan of absorbing as much
> as possible from the left toolbar into the layer widget as part of my
> overhaul of that part of the UI.
> I also think it would be totally fine to have it *only* in the layer
> widget, because we don't duplicate the other object visibility
> controls in Preferences.
>
>
> I like this even better.  Single location, placed with all view options.
>  Anyone have objections to this idea?
>
>
> The "Show ratsnest with curved lines" checkbox fits in to Preferences
> (and not the left toolbar) in my mind, because it seems like a "set
> and forget" kind of setting, not one that I would toggle on and off
> all the time while I'm working on a board (but maybe others
> disagree??)
>
>
> I tend to agree with this as well.  I've placed it in the preferences
> for now and I think removing it from the View menu and the left toolbar
> is a good idea.  Any objections to this idea?
>
> -S
>
>
> I don't have an issue with either of these.
>
> Wayne
>
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