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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

I see no reason to make ngspice 30 a strict minimum requirement.

Lets just help packagers update to the latest ngspice and we are good.

tor. 13. jun. 2019 18.33 skrev Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:

> On 6/10/19 4:01 PM, Carsten Schoenert wrote:
> > Hello Wayne,
> >
> > Am 10.06.19 um 20:15 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh:
> >> We cannot make ngspice 30 the minimum version.  There are far too many
> >> linux distros where 30 is not available yet.  Please keep in mind,
> >> Debian stable and the latest Ubuntu LTS version are the benchmarks for
> >> dependency package versions.  I'm fine with packaging macos and windows
> >> with 30.
> >
> > current Debian stable (Stretch) has KiCad version 4.0.5+dfsg1-4 in the
> > archive and no package libngspice0 at all (not even in non-free) so
> > there is nothing to take care on here.
> >
> > The current Ubuntu LTS release 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) has KiCad version
> > 4.0.7+dfsg1-1ubuntu2 and libngspice0 version 27-1.
> > At least the KiCad version is long long outdated. So also not really
> > relevant too.
> >
> > But all relevant current Debian releases are providing a recent KiCad
> > version and also libngspice0 in version 30.2-1 (from unstable to
> > stretch-backports). This is also available in all Downstream of Debian
> > means also in Ubuntu >= 'Cosmic Cuttlefish' are providing KiCad
> > 5.0.0+dfsg1-2, but also libngspice0 in version 27. Updates wont happen.
> >
> > But Jean-Samuel Reynaud is providing actual versions of KiCad and also
> > the depending libngspice0 package and they even work in the always
> > outdated Linux Mint distro. So for me your requirements you like to set
> > are fulfilled.
> >
> > And normally the application is defining the requirements. Simulations
> > seems to be for some users an critical option. So if the maintainers of
> > ngspice hardly suggesting to use the most recent version of ngspice in
> > recent KiCad version I would strongly consider to increase this build
> > dependency.
> >
> > In the end it's up to the KiCad maintainers to define the requirements
> > for KiCad. It was a long road to get ngspice into Debian main but in the
> > end it happened, big thanks to Holger again btw! So Debian has no
> > problem to provide KiCad with a depending libngspice0 library >= 30.2.
> >
>
> Is this a problem for any of the other package devs?  If not, I have no
> issue with bumping the minimum version to 30.  If this prevents any
> other platforms from being built, then it will have to wait.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
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