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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I do not personally use ngspice.  I have filed an issue if someone has a
quick one to add.

https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-mac-builder/issues/90

Adam

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 9:43 PM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Good news, it seems like we managed to make the kicad-mac-packaging
> scripts happy.
>
> After upgrading to ngspice 30 we had to update the include path for
> some unknown reason. But it seems like it should work now. The first
> build has been pushed to the nightly download location. It is not been
> repackaged for stable. I guess Adam will handle that if we don't
> release a 5.1.3 before.
>
> But I don't think it is ready for primetime yet, first user of the build
> says:
>
> <{HD}> haha so hitting the play button crashed all of kicad
> <{HD}> yep, just tried again. The whole thing crashes.
> <{HD}> This is fun and all but I am going out for dinner. I will be
> back in a few hours.
>
> So if anyone else on mac could try it out? Maybe you Jeff can try it out?
> I think he tested the unified version:
>
> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/nightly/kicad-unified-20190701-113048-53e18489e-10_14.dmg
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 11:16, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I see no reason to make ngspice 30 a strict minimum requirement.
> >
> > Lets just help packagers update to the latest ngspice and we are good.
> >
> > tor. 13. jun. 2019 18.33 skrev Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >> On 6/10/19 4:01 PM, Carsten Schoenert wrote:
> >> > Hello Wayne,
> >> >
> >> > Am 10.06.19 um 20:15 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh:
> >> >> We cannot make ngspice 30 the minimum version.  There are far too
> many
> >> >> linux distros where 30 is not available yet.  Please keep in mind,
> >> >> Debian stable and the latest Ubuntu LTS version are the benchmarks
> for
> >> >> dependency package versions.  I'm fine with packaging macos and
> windows
> >> >> with 30.
> >> >
> >> > current Debian stable (Stretch) has KiCad version 4.0.5+dfsg1-4 in the
> >> > archive and no package libngspice0 at all (not even in non-free) so
> >> > there is nothing to take care on here.
> >> >
> >> > The current Ubuntu LTS release 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) has KiCad version
> >> > 4.0.7+dfsg1-1ubuntu2 and libngspice0 version 27-1.
> >> > At least the KiCad version is long long outdated. So also not really
> >> > relevant too.
> >> >
> >> > But all relevant current Debian releases are providing a recent KiCad
> >> > version and also libngspice0 in version 30.2-1 (from unstable to
> >> > stretch-backports). This is also available in all Downstream of Debian
> >> > means also in Ubuntu >= 'Cosmic Cuttlefish' are providing KiCad
> >> > 5.0.0+dfsg1-2, but also libngspice0 in version 27. Updates wont
> happen.
> >> >
> >> > But Jean-Samuel Reynaud is providing actual versions of KiCad and also
> >> > the depending libngspice0 package and they even work in the always
> >> > outdated Linux Mint distro. So for me your requirements you like to
> set
> >> > are fulfilled.
> >> >
> >> > And normally the application is defining the requirements. Simulations
> >> > seems to be for some users an critical option. So if the maintainers
> of
> >> > ngspice hardly suggesting to use the most recent version of ngspice in
> >> > recent KiCad version I would strongly consider to increase this build
> >> > dependency.
> >> >
> >> > In the end it's up to the KiCad maintainers to define the requirements
> >> > for KiCad. It was a long road to get ngspice into Debian main but in
> the
> >> > end it happened, big thanks to Holger again btw! So Debian has no
> >> > problem to provide KiCad with a depending libngspice0 library >= 30.2.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Is this a problem for any of the other package devs?  If not, I have no
> >> issue with bumping the minimum version to 30.  If this prevents any
> >> other platforms from being built, then it will have to wait.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
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