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[Andy Peters <devel@xxxxxxxxx>]

> On Jul 1, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Good news, it seems like we managed to make the kicad-mac-packaging
> scripts happy.
> 
> After upgrading to ngspice 30 we had to update the include path for
> some unknown reason. But it seems like it should work now. The first
> build has been pushed to the nightly download location. It is not been
> repackaged for stable. I guess Adam will handle that if we don't
> release a 5.1.3 before.
> 
> But I don't think it is ready for primetime yet, first user of the build says:
> 
> <{HD}> haha so hitting the play button crashed all of kicad
> <{HD}> yep, just tried again. The whole thing crashes.
> <{HD}> This is fun and all but I am going out for dinner. I will be
> back in a few hours.
> 
> So if anyone else on mac could try it out? Maybe you Jeff can try it out?
> I think he tested the unified version:
> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/nightly/kicad-unified-20190701-113048-53e18489e-10_14.dmg

I will try it tonight. Does anyone have an example circuit with models I can use?

-a




> Cheers.
> 
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 11:16, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> I see no reason to make ngspice 30 a strict minimum requirement.
>> 
>> Lets just help packagers update to the latest ngspice and we are good.
>> 
>> tor. 13. jun. 2019 18.33 skrev Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> 
>>>> On 6/10/19 4:01 PM, Carsten Schoenert wrote:
>>>> Hello Wayne,
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 10.06.19 um 20:15 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh:
>>>>> We cannot make ngspice 30 the minimum version.  There are far too many
>>>>> linux distros where 30 is not available yet.  Please keep in mind,
>>>>> Debian stable and the latest Ubuntu LTS version are the benchmarks for
>>>>> dependency package versions.  I'm fine with packaging macos and windows
>>>>> with 30.
>>>> 
>>>> current Debian stable (Stretch) has KiCad version 4.0.5+dfsg1-4 in the
>>>> archive and no package libngspice0 at all (not even in non-free) so
>>>> there is nothing to take care on here.
>>>> 
>>>> The current Ubuntu LTS release 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) has KiCad version
>>>> 4.0.7+dfsg1-1ubuntu2 and libngspice0 version 27-1.
>>>> At least the KiCad version is long long outdated. So also not really
>>>> relevant too.
>>>> 
>>>> But all relevant current Debian releases are providing a recent KiCad
>>>> version and also libngspice0 in version 30.2-1 (from unstable to
>>>> stretch-backports). This is also available in all Downstream of Debian
>>>> means also in Ubuntu >= 'Cosmic Cuttlefish' are providing KiCad
>>>> 5.0.0+dfsg1-2, but also libngspice0 in version 27. Updates wont happen.
>>>> 
>>>> But Jean-Samuel Reynaud is providing actual versions of KiCad and also
>>>> the depending libngspice0 package and they even work in the always
>>>> outdated Linux Mint distro. So for me your requirements you like to set
>>>> are fulfilled.
>>>> 
>>>> And normally the application is defining the requirements. Simulations
>>>> seems to be for some users an critical option. So if the maintainers of
>>>> ngspice hardly suggesting to use the most recent version of ngspice in
>>>> recent KiCad version I would strongly consider to increase this build
>>>> dependency.
>>>> 
>>>> In the end it's up to the KiCad maintainers to define the requirements
>>>> for KiCad. It was a long road to get ngspice into Debian main but in the
>>>> end it happened, big thanks to Holger again btw! So Debian has no
>>>> problem to provide KiCad with a depending libngspice0 library >= 30.2.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is this a problem for any of the other package devs?  If not, I have no
>>> issue with bumping the minimum version to 30.  If this prevents any
>>> other platforms from being built, then it will have to wait.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
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